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Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:29 pm
by davetee
Nigel @ Regtons please feel free to jump in
I'm fairly new to detecting (6 months) and a member of several clubs. At one I'm repeatedly being advised to go back to v2 from v3.2 as the latter gives too many false iron signals and supposedly v2 is better on our mineralised soils e.g. roman/saxon sites. I've been informed that although I am finding things, after all it is a metal detector, I could be missing as much as 70% of good targets.
The scenario I've been give is v3.2 is like using headlights in fog e.g. overpowered and can't cope too well in mineralised conditions, due to continuous habitation.
The head of the club has apparently tested this side by side with someone else on v3.2 over a period of several months and concluded that v3.2 was missing targets that v2 was finding.
I would appreciate some professional advice/opinions on this, as I'm sure other Deus users would.
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:38 pm
by bbuster88
Hi Dave, I'm useing the v3.2 with no problems. I started in January this year found around 16 Roman coins 12 hammered, lots of other interesting bits, in my opinion there's nothing wrong with this version, my buddy whom on the same also has no problems, I'm sure deus would have made a fix if this had been true mate, stick with v3.2 if there there you're find them
Bb88
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:08 pm
by davetee
The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:39 pm
by Danzigman
davetee wrote:The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
Find rate like that, also demands land with that oppertunity.. even if I ( I use V 2.0) used 300 hours, I still dont get that... So all I can say it to test.. If you have a new machine, you will not be able to down grade to V 2.0 ..
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:41 pm
by davetee
Danzigman wrote:davetee wrote:The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
Find rate like that, also demands land with that oppertunity.. even if I ( I use V 2.0) used 300 hours, I still dont get that... So all I can say it to test.. If you have a new machine, you will not be able to down grade to V 2.0 ..
I bought my machine in December and I've managed to downgrade no problem.
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:51 pm
by bbuster88
Danzigman wrote:davetee wrote:The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
Find rate like that, also demands land with that oppertunity.. even if I ( I use V 2.0) used 300 hours, I still dont get that... So all I can say it to test.. If you have a new machine, you will not be able to down grade to V 2.0 ..
Find rate like that he must have Saxon/Roman/medieval/ spirit guides
I agree test it ! but I never heard about the v2 better then v3, before I got the deus I was researching for about a year before I committed to buying it, didn't read nothing about the problem.
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:54 pm
by Danzigman
Just heard that New Deus born with 3.0 or higer, would not be able to return to lower grade of program download.. So 3.0 would not download 2.0.. But no problem to go up..
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:13 pm
by davetee
Danzigman wrote:Just heard that New Deus born with 3.0 or higer, would not be able to return to lower grade of program download.. So 3.0 would not download 2.0.. But no problem to go up..
Danzigman...mine came with v3.2 but I've managed to downgrade to v2...it was an option from the XP website
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:19 pm
by Koala
not my machine but on another forum
ivconic did a lot of testing of different versions he wrote
Yesterday i updated my Deus to V3.2.
I decided to give it another chance.
Actually i never tried it more seriously so far. Last was V3.1 and it disappointed me on the real field.
But than i discovered that with V3.2 XP solved all the issues i met at V3.1 ! Wow!
Now we mean business!
V3.1 tended to miss some shallow targets if coils is swing a bit faster.
Also V3.1 tended to produce strange and funny response on fat and nice but very shallow medieval coins (higher percentage of Cu in such alloys).
Sometimes V3.1 chokes and behaves funny.
I checked all the things now with V3.2 and those are gone! Hurraaah!
So now V3.2 rules... until new version comes to public!
I also have to point on another nice thing; the tracking GEB!
As old school and "experienced" user (the hell i am, knowing now the things i didn't know) i always looked on such "digital cookies" with serious contempt.
I never gave it a chance.
But now with Deus i discovered that tracking GEB is a hell of option! It is ultra fast and works exactly as i always wanted it.
No more manual GEB chasing and "fingering" it all the time during the searching.
I will use tracking all the time now, because it is indeed ultra fast and accurate.
Big "BRAVO" for XP!
Sounds like 3.1 was a dead duck but 3.2 is fine
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:20 pm
by THE MOLE
you could use 2 jcb`s on your land and not find that much, if its not in the ground your not going to find it.
personally ive found one hammered in 4.5 years and ive used 3 different machines on the same land.
if they arnt there they arnt there mate
neil.
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:06 pm
by coil
Agree with the mole if ain't there don't matter what you got
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:12 pm
by Verulamium
As with most tools it's about the skills on the handler. Either version will give excellent results in the hands of a fully competent Deus user. That said, you have to agree with the other posters in that you can only find what is there and the best machine and user in the world can't find stuff in an empty site!
Why don't you extensively try both versions and post back your findings for others to learn from?
Good luck!
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:57 pm
by AndyM
davetee wrote:The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
This is easy isn't it, its called psychological warfare, nothing more than a bum steer designed to fool the enemy, convince everyone else in the club to use a outdated V2 version while he sweeps up with the latest V3.2.............
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 11:59 pm
by sweepstick47
AndyM wrote:davetee wrote:The person advising on using v2 apparently found this in a year.
96 hammered
2 Saxon hammered
Over 2,000 Roman bronzes
12 Denarius
47 Roman brooches
7 sceats
6 Silver units
1 quarter Stater
Saxon nail cleaner, bell, bucket mount, wrist clasp and more.
That sounds like the view of a Sceptic and it just happens to be the view that I take
ss47
This is easy isn't it, its called psychological warfare, nothing more than a bum steer designed to fool the enemy, convince everyone else in the club to use a outdated V2 version while he sweeps up with the latest V3.2.............
Re: Once and for all?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:34 am
by busterhamer
41.8 coins of distinction once a week every week of the year, is some achievement, the simple fact remains if we believed everything everybody told us about detecting, most of us wouldn't even bother starting. the best thing about what we do is getting out there and finding your own piece of history.
Most machines out there will find everything within the top few inches, regardless of the setting's used, never read too much into people finding thing's at unrealistic depth's 90% of these were in the top few inches and fell into the crater once it was dug.
The simple fact remain's if you don't walk over it you will never find it.
P.S V3.2 has bee used very successfully by team PAST since it's release and with weekly reports on what has been recovered at
http://www.recoveryofhistory.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; i'll let you decide weather or not V2.0 has bee improved or not.
HH Buster