Cigarette case, coin and lead seal from the beach

[egon999]

Managed to get a couple of hours in at the weekend. Not been beaches much since I started last year but found something more than tin cans and aluminium scrap this time. The cigarette case and coin I know but suggestions welcome for the other stuff. I've heard that bits of ordanance are picked up all over the coast so they may be military?
Anyway, thanks for reading

The cigarette case is badly stained but has a paisley style pattern etched into it (the small piece next to it is the catch I think) My dad had one similar when he was young but said this one wasn't very big (its 80mm by 70mm) the metal loops for the elastic restraining strap are still in place. Its in the trolysis tub as I write and i'll post up an 'after' photo if its sucessful

The coin is 15mm diameter and weighs 0.85g which makes it a bronze third farthing I think. There's no detail at all on it

The lead disc is some sort of seal I presume. Its 13mm diameter and has very worn markings on it (but nothing I can read) I've found a bag seal before but it doesn't look like this?

The metal fragment looks like its part of something thats been blown up. The metal is ridged in areas.

The brass strap fragment has faded narkings on it too. again nothing I can make out.

[roamingrob]

well found mate , it never fails to amaze me what come up..

[RRPG]

Your metal piece with the grooves on it is part of the internal striker column from a British No 36m grenade. The column contained a firing pin on a strong spring. When the pin was pulled and the firing arm released, the spring would 'shoot' the firing pin down the column against a blast cap, thus initiating the delay fuze. When the grenade explodes, the force of the explosion presses the column in against the spring, leaving an impression of it on the inside of the column. The whole thing would then explode out and fragment the grenade, hence the chunk you've got.

Here is a picture of my sectioned No 36m showing the column, spring and firing pin.

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And here is a complete unsectioned striker column.

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RRPG

[Tomo]

Looks like your pulling up the older stuff

[52747]

Impressive ID there !

[RRPG]

Impressive ID there !

Hehehehe

Thanks......comes from years of digging just WW2 relics

[egon999]

Cheers RRPG, the man from the council who looks after the coastline in that area said he'd found practice grenades before. looks like they used the real things too. Thanks for taking the time to hunt out the pics

[egon999]

Postscript to this: Electrolysis results photo for one half of the cigarette case (already posted on an ongoing "cleaning finds" topic so apols if you've seen it twice)