IMPORTANT Switching On

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IMPORTANT Switching On

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Hello all, I have had confirmation today back from Alain at XP Metal Detectors that when you switch on your Deus the machine must be at least 15" away from any metal objects / ground which most of us already know but the important part many will not know as its not stated in the manual is that you must wait for at least 10+ seconds for the coil to calibrate "quick flashing", then when the coil changes to the normal 1 second pulsing all is set to Go and you can bring the coil to the ground ::g
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Post by Danzigman »

I did a littel time test two days ago.. looking at the display and coil.. When turned on - I personally always use no speaker.. the time it takes for the display to come up with the info YES or NO and you to chose, fits well over the flash interval on coils..
So dont lower coil before you have done this small choices..
After one or two outing it is habit.. ::g
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Thanks for bringing it up mrix..
Hi John, I feel its a hugely important setup point, I hold my hands up and was honestly unaware of this as I can only imagine countless others were also as there was nothing in the manual explaining this.
I would normally hold the machine with the coil facing the sky and then switch on and almost straight to the ground after a few seconds, certainly not 10 seconds that`s for sure! it was highly likely the Deus was still calibrating and at times may of caused me some problems ?

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Not sure where I read it but I've always held my Deus 3ft horizontal from the ground before switching on keeping it there while it calibrated. :-/
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Post by Fusion »

All coils will pick up noticeably more electrical interference if they are not held completely flat, so it is wise to hold them that way during the important self-cal period. By 'flat', I mean how you would normally hold them when searching.
And the "15 inches away from metal" should really be taken to read "15 inches from the ground". Depending on the size of the metal, you might need to be many feet away. For example, don't stand 6 feet / 2 metres away from your car when you turn it on.
My own experiments show that the ground can be picked up more than 15 inches away with a typical "9 inch" search-coil, so I would try and hold the coil 2 feet / 60cm clear of the ground, just ensure the coil stays flat, don't tip the whole detector.
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Not sure where I read it but I've always held my Deus 3ft horizontal from the ground before switching on keeping it there while it calibrated
I would normally point the machine in the air to calibrate it sure but I never really kept it there long enough and have only just become aware of how long you do actually need to leave it calibrating by the quick flashing of the coil which is at least 10 seconds+
All coils will pick up noticeably more electrical interference if they are not held completely flat, so it is wise to hold them that way during the important self-cal period. By 'flat', I mean how you would normally hold them when searching.
And the "15 inches away from metal" should really be taken to read "15 inches from the ground". Depending on the size of the metal, you might need to be many feet away. For example, don't stand 6 feet / 2 metres away from your car when you turn it on.
My own experiments show that the ground can be picked up more than 15 inches away with a typical "9 inch" search-coil, so I would try and hold the coil 2 feet / 60cm clear of the ground, just ensure the coil stays flat, don't tip the whole detector.
Very good points made Fusion ::g

I guess at the end of the day just make sure your coil is as far away from the ground or metal objects as possible, next make sure the fast calibration flashing of the coil has stopped and your pretty much safe to Go ::g
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Post by liamnolan »

Thanks mrix for that update, crucial to us all and I was not aware of the 10 seconds delay either, will now do things right! Liam ::g
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Thanks mrix for that update, crucial to us all and I was not aware of the 10 seconds delay either, will now do things right! Liam
I was not aware myself Liam as I would imagine countless others are not.
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mrix wrote:Hello all, I have had confirmation today back from Alain at XP Metal Detectors that when you switch on your Deus the machine must be at least 15" away from any metal objects / ground which most of us already know but the important part many will not know as its not stated in the manual is that you must wait for at least 10 seconds for the coil to switch on and calibrate "quick flashing", then when the coil changes to the normal 1 second pulsing all is set to Go and you can bring the coil to the ground ::g
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Lets get this switching on bit exactly right,the coil does Not switch to the normal one second pulsing unless it is switched to a program,otherwise it switches to four second pulsing if not switched on and from my experience the calibrating is a little more than ten seconds more like twenty seconds when calibrating.
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Post by mrix »

the coil does Not switch to the normal one second pulsing unless it is switched to a program
I think you will find your above statement wrong, When you switch the Deus on it always starts off in one of the programs, maybe the default program 1 or if you have something custom created, you will find that even before you click No / Yes for the speaker the coil has already started calibrating.
from my experience the calibrating is a little more than ten seconds more like twenty seconds when calibrating.
This topic has basically been created to make more Deus users aware that you do have to wait for the coil to calibrate before using the machine, its appears the calibrating process maybe be a little quicker / slower depending on machine and surroundings ::g
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Sorry to be contradictious but when my Deus is sitting it will flash every four seconds or so,when I switch it on it calibrates and then asks if you want the speakers on or off,so until you chose one or the other to that it is not showing a program???? Am I correct or not???
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Post by Danzigman »

metal-detective wrote:Sorry to be contradictious but when my Deus is sitting it will flash every four seconds or so,when I switch it on it calibrates and then asks if you want the speakers on or off,so until you chose one or the other to that it is not showing a program???? Am I correct or not???
You are correct that it dont show programe choice before after Yes/No to speaker.. But it DO calibrate before..
So as I posted in start.. When YES/NO is on screen your DEUS is already calibrated and ready to start the program you turned it of in last time.. ::g
- Short story.. - when you push turn on, the calibration starts..
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Post by mrix »

Sorry to be contradictious but when my Deus is sitting it will flash every four seconds or so
Just a little note, once charged your coil will flash every 4 seconds while not in use indefinitely until it has lost its charge, this is even before you switch your Deus remote control control or headphones on.
Once you switch the remote control or headphones on this is when the calibration process starts as already explained ::g

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Post by stubble hunter »

Thanks mrix for this crucial thread. I also was unaware of the calibrating time.
Very appreciated ! ::g
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Post by metal-detective »

Am I to understand that every thing I said is CORRECT.I would hate to be giving missleading information!!!
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