Own a HF coil? Would you buy one again?

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Post by Beach-Comber »

I have both of the HF coils and I totally agree with EasyLife's comments. Especially digging faint targets. I tend to use the higher frequencies and I am convinced that ground balance is more important with the HF coils. A combination of getting the ground balance and frequency right improves the good target signals. With my 11" I always used GMP but with the HF coils I have started using Gary's Hot (No9) program or the Deep program as I am not sure it detects as deep as the 11" coil.
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Post by deepdig »

Hi Oxigirl i have the elliptical and the hf 9" Coil i love using the ellipticl you don"t cover the ground so fast but you don"t miss any thing if you go over it, the signals are a lot sharper also brilliant on the beach my choice. so would i buy one again to true would at Regtons the next day if it died on me i rest my case.
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Post by JBM »

Looks like its game set and match in favour of the H/F coil.

Keep your eyes open for garys detecting videos. ;)

Happy Hunting,

Jerry.
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It's Black Friday and extra discounts so it looks like I'll be spending my birthday money on a shiny white coil that will be muddy brown in no time :D in fact i might be getting a parcel tomorrow -=+:-P

Thank you all for your responses and messages. I recognise this won't be a coil for all occasions but I suspect it will be very useful for a couple of my sites. I'll let you know how I get on ::g
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JBM wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:02 am Looks like its game set and match in favour of the H/F coil.

Keep your eyes open for garys detecting videos. ;)

Happy Hunting,

Jerry.
:-/ - I'm rubbish at reading between the lines. Or maybe I create lines that don't exist?? Is something exciting happening? Oh I love a bit of mystery -=+:-P
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Post by punka$$ »

What frequency do you guys use the most with th the hf coil?
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August was my birthday and as it was my 60th birthday and I wanted the deus ....I ended up with the deus lite ...that came with optional coils ....I opted for the 9 inch hf coil......
I share some land with five other lads one of whom has the deus full.....compared to the others my finds rate has been phenomenal and i put it all down to the hf . ....i have found three sceats already two of the other lads have one each ....lots hammered .....three gold items one being the medieval gold ring ....saxon button brooch and much more .....I was useing the GMp before and have tried it out again on a few occasions but found the machine very tired In comparison.....
I was helped I think by having used the xp goldmax and the adventis for the last 4 years ....
But as mentioned before if you go over land with different settings or different machines you will always seem to find more from a heavily worked site.
For example the gold ring came from a small hot spot which had turned up quite a few sceats and had been severely bashed by all six of us since harvest and we were all astounded when the ring surfaced and it was only a few inches deep..
All in all its not a deep machine but If your finding little because your machine is not picking up the targets on a well bashed site does it matter....
I only use the 54 khz but always have a try at all the programmes as there are really five different detectors in one machine with a myriad combination of settings....the picture is of some of my finds since august ....hope this has helped towards making your mind up about the hf coil
......Ray ::g ::gImage
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Lovely Jubbly. Ray. ::g Jerry.
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lordofthecoils wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:25 am August was my birthday and as it was my 60th birthday and I wanted the deus ....I ended up with the deus lite ...that came with optional coils ....I opted for the 9 inch hf coil......
I share some land with five other lads one of whom has the deus full.....compared to the others my finds rate has been phenomenal and i put it all down to the hf . ....i have found three sceats already two of the other lads have one each ....lots hammered .....three gold items one being the medieval gold ring ....saxon button brooch and much more .....I was useing the GMp before and have tried it out again on a few occasions but found the machine very tired In comparison.....
I was helped I think by having used the xp goldmax and the adventis for the last 4 years ....
But as mentioned before if you go over land with different settings or different machines you will always seem to find more from a heavily worked site.
For example the gold ring came from a small hot spot which had turned up quite a few sceats and had been severely bashed by all six of us since harvest and we were all astounded when the ring surfaced and it was only a few inches deep..
All in all its not a deep machine but If your finding little because your machine is not picking up the targets on a well bashed site does it matter....
I only use the 54 khz but always have a try at all the programmes as there are really five different detectors in one machine with a myriad combination of settings....the picture is of some of my finds since august ....hope this has helped towards making your mind up about the hf coil
......Ray ::g ::gImage
Thanks Ray ::g great write up and lovely finds. I’d be delighted if I had just 5% of that lot. l;.

I see you are using 54khz but what is your preferred programme? Most people seem to be favouring either hot or deep. I really should watch Gary’s videos to see what he uses. 8=ypr

I’m on one field which is ploughed but with little iron; it has thrown up quite a few silver coins.

My second field is full of maize stubble and some spots of iron contamination.

My third field is one I‘ve battered to death and finds have dried up. It’s an acre of pasture where i’ve found lots of stuff but I want to see if this can find more. Gary from XP says it’s great for tired sites so he’d best be right :D

Any thoughts on the best programmes for these 3 conditions. It arrived yesterday so I’m hoping to sneak out this afternoon to have a play OooO
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Oxgirl36 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:36 am
I’m on one field which is ploughed but with little iron; it has thrown up quite a few silver coins.

My second field is full of maize stubble and some spots of iron contamination.

My third field is one I‘ve battered to death and finds have dried up. It’s an acre of pasture where i’ve found lots of stuff but I want to see if this can find more. Gary from XP says it’s great for tired sites so he’d best be right :D

Any thoughts on the best programmes for these 3 conditions. It arrived yesterday so I’m hoping to sneak out this afternoon to have a play OooO
I would use GMP on the ploughed field and Hot on the other 2, good luck ::g
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Sorry OG just saw this hope you had success today......as I only have the deus lite I can only suggest programmes in ws4 headphones related ......as still burnino said GMp in 54 khz is better on rough plough....but try programme 6 in 54 just stick to stock settings it really is a belter. ...I have only had this machine since August so I am still experimenting ...Ray ::g
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lordofthecoils wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:21 pm Sorry OG just saw this hope you had success today......as I only have the deus lite I can only suggest programmes in ws4 headphones related ......as still burnino said GMp in 54 khz is better on rough plough....but try programme 6 in 54 just stick to stock settings it really is a better. ...I have only had this machine since August so I am still experimenting ...Ray ::g
Thanks Ray. Never got out today. Ended up drooling at the lovely blue skies whilst out shopping with the family. Not a choice I wanted to make :-L but it had to be done. Have Friday off though so will test out the programmes then (weather permitting ;[ ) and report back.
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Post by bob79 »

Hi Cath, did you take the plunge and spend your birthday money on a coil.

Bob ::g
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A great thread for Deus users. I think I might also need to get a HF coil now after doing some research of them. Maybe like a sort of self justified Xmas present? Well, a smaller coil would of course complement the 11” LF. I can think of some parts of my sites where I would like to use one, like the now silent areas which have produced, or are quite likely to produce hammies. My take on this is that the elliptical coil is more specialized, has less ground coverage so is more stable in EMI and mineralized ground, has better target separation amongst iron though maybe less depth, and works well with the “hot” program. Ideally suited to hunting small gold in 80khz but excels on iron infested sites.
The 9” HF round coil is a good all-rounder maybe offering more depth, and works well with the “deep” program in 50khz to enhance very small targets and those of around 30 to 40, like coins on edge at depth. So I guess for the majority of UK sites the 9” HF round would realistically be more useful. The white HF coils are also stated to weigh about a 100 grams less than the black LF coils.
The HF's should also have an advantage at the beach on the micro jewellery and rings especially amongst higher mineralization – any feedback from beach users would be good.
I find with the 11” coil that correct ground balance makes all the difference to target responses, usually sharper by running slightly negative. I can't presently justify getting both HF's, but am swayed towards the 9” round coil. All user experiences appreciated. ::g
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Easylife wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:37 am A great thread for Deus users. I think I might also need to get a HF coil now after doing some research of them. Maybe like a sort of self justified Xmas present? Well, a smaller coil would of course complement the 11” LF. I can think of some parts of my sites where I would like to use one, like the now silent areas which have produced, or are quite likely to produce hammies. My take on this is that the elliptical coil is more specialized, has less ground coverage so is more stable in EMI and mineralized ground, has better target separation amongst iron though maybe less depth, and works well with the “hot” program. Ideally suited to hunting small gold in 80khz but excels on iron infested sites.
The 9” HF round coil is a good all-rounder maybe offering more depth, and works well with the “deep” program in 50khz to enhance very small targets and those of around 30 to 40, like coins on edge at depth. So I guess for the majority of UK sites the 9” HF round would realistically be more useful. The white HF coils are also stated to weigh about a 100 grams less than the black LF coils.
The HF's should also have an advantage at the beach on the micro jewellery and rings especially amongst higher mineralization – any feedback from beach users would be good.
I find with the 11” coil that correct ground balance makes all the difference to target responses, usually sharper by running slightly negative. I can't presently justify getting both HF's, but am swayed towards the 9” round coil. All user experiences appreciated. ::g
Same as you, I'm on the fence about which one.. thing is I love hammered and small silver so a HF coil running at 28khz is calling, I have the 11" LF too and need a smaller coil for the maize stubble but the 9" round HF seems to be a good all rounder - I think I'm going round :-/
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