Deus Info For Dummies!

[sugar]

I'm trying to work out why you are not hearing the ferrous spits.I run mine hot,and like to hear the iron.What I'm trying to see,is if your machine can be made to signal the iron.If it can't,it's a dud machine.

And now i feel i can go to bed and sleep cos i know that it will get sorted it hears very little iron with no discrim doesnt see a pre decimal at 14 or 15 inches loses it at 11 inches air testing and think it is just a batch that is not quite up to hitting the mark for some reason or another have racked my brain to try and sort it went ten miles today to a nearly new field no iron noise feel sorry for myself as i stuck my neck out with my partner to get this machine and he knows when i come back that i am GUTTED trying to tell me its only a machine and i can just walk way from it and forget it that is the worst scenerio but then i try and stay positive. the strange thing is when i am carrying it well above the ground at like two foot off the ground it goes off like a good un grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr no logic

[hammyman]

If you run it at 0 discrim,iron vol 5,you are effectively in all metal.It should be making a hell of a racket on an iron infested field.

[Slow & Low]

Hello Sugar

Re you last sentence, this is normal for detectors where they have a cable I think, but with the Deus thats a new one. Not tried that one, i wouldn't worry about it. The lack of depth is a problem.

[Slow & Low]

Thanks hammyman,

I will try this hopefully tomorrow

I also thank you for your patcience, well to all of you really. As sugar stated We Will get to the bottom of this Problem! Yes, "Problem" which it is

Steven.

[sugar]

RAIN STOPS PLAY GRRRRR ok meeting a guy on tuesday or wednesday night but a bit of a break through after suggestions from hammyman i have knocked the discrim down to 0 and put iron volume up to 5. the iron is coming through and the high blips that are lurking deep are also showing themselves dug two spadefuls out for a non discript find but the point being i have got a high tone deeper than ever before on several occasions therefore i am asking myself if separation is a problem and with discriminating out the iron is it affecting the recovery speed and maybe not as quick as i had thought hmmmm some more testing and not saying a light at the end of tunnel but feeling a slight relief that i can begin to understand what is happening and perhaps learn to weedle out the finds that are sitting there just waiting to be dug.

the whole idea of me metal detecting is certainly not to dig surface finds three four inches below the surface that is not what i am about and so i will continue to work at learning the tones and get more answers thankyou hammyman for giving me that great advice and helping me move forward

[barryny]

Hi there - reading this thread with interest.

Everyone needs to remember that we do not have to accept "damaged or inferior" units.
If you used a credit card to purchase the detector then you have a full 60 days from the date of the statement that the charge appears on - to get satisfaction. Satisfaction to me means that we shouldn't have to return the units for repairs if you are within this time frame. These detectors are not cars - they are the same as any other electronic item. If you bought a new LED 50" TV and it wasn't working correctly in the above stated timeframe -you would return it for a refund or exchange. The same holds true for metal detectors. Do not let the seller tell you otherwise. If you are not happy with your unit's performance then return it for refund or exchange. If the retailer does not want to do that, then put forth a chargeback dispute with your credit card company. You will win. And purchase your next machine from another retailer.

Now this holds true in the USA but I would believe that it works in the UK too - you should call customer service for your credit card company and ask the question...

[Slow & Low]

Hello barryny !

Thank you for that advice. I had Nigel from Regtons on the 7 day of ownership accept return of my Deus v2 remote control for the PCB & LCD screen to be replaced & coil for testing. Since return i have noticed no improvement with this detector which i know of Myselft, Sugar, X & another X thats 4 of us having this same issue of Lack of Depth performance. It is not the settings nor is it the case the finds are not there.

Regtons state the following about returns of detectors/goods and they seem to have it mastered in there favour that no matter what the buyer will loose 10% and courier return cost. I was not happy to have the inside PCB & LCD replaced though this is a easy job on a new detector.

I will send a pm with details for you to check over should you not have seen it on the Regton website.

I unfortuantly do not own a Credit Card and paid for my machine with a Visa Debit Card so i understand I am not protected by the 60 days protection.

Cheers

Steven

[sugar]

Today i have spent time setting myself a good coin garden i know it will not be at its best but i have targets set at 6 inches and nine inches, I FORGOT TO TAKE A PEN GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
anyway tomorrow i will remember one a couple of things i will comment on is the frightening ids that appeared on my screen as one target came up at 28 and another at 98 these numbers i would not have dug, my biggest dissappointment was that a silver bracelet at 6 inches was not seen by any of the programes until i dug it up which wasnt hard as only 6 inches down and realigned it when it was visible by the machine on some of the programes

i fetched the etrac and it also did not give a dig me signal on the bracelet and both machines ignored a gold ring at nine inches. dont take these results as defo as more results will follow tomorrow. dont forget there is no halo which we have with our finds unless on ploughed fields when even then in a clod of soil the halo still exists. these are not meant to be text book results but a way for me to learn the ids and which programes are the best for my way of hunting nothing is meant by them but already i have learnt certain things. defo the best basic straight from the machine programe on my machine is the pitch programe and when i have finished this entry i will check out my manual to see what gives it that edge over the other programes very interesting.


each targets has been set at the side of a plastic ruler yes i have 10 rulers measuring the depth and i hope to start to understand the deus. a very odd readout was on a solid silver five pound coin and as i said i will write down these results tomorrow i was under the impression that the best ids were around the 65 to 85 mark
i hope i dont get this 98 signal tomorrow as my machine is always hitting 98 and something i understand was a dont dig signal MORE LEARNING

[Slow & Low]

Hello Sugar

As you already know but just for the other readers here.

Even using Hammymans excellent prgramme suggestions and adjustments i have found no improvements to the depth. Really is worrying.

Steven

[Kmarsh]

Glad to see ya not giving up the ghost yet sugar.......just to note as I've said b4, if its a half decent 98 I alway remove an inch or two of soil and then pan over again, a good target will fall in Id No.... I've been digging spade and pointer plus depths all day, even notched out 22 to 52 this afternoon cos I was sick of coke and cartridge shells.........

[Kmarsh]

Mine came in at 62, confused ?? you will be...........

[sugar]

so interesting about the different ids you have both spoken about k marsh i notched out 95 to 99 yesterday and it still came through with a 98 signal any ideas does this happen to you,learning the tones is most important to me as i would like to hunt by tone alone is this possible do you think

i do think at one time this big silver coin came in at 28 scary its a huge five pound coin and everywhere i have read this is the coke area so gets ignored looking forward to my tests and some answers big silver comimg in on the same spectrum as coke is not one i will relish not sure i will be digging thousands of pieces of coke in the hope that one of them is a large silver coin WHOOOPS anyway jimmy well done on your hammered keep um coming giving us the ids is so helpful and very informative and helps me to plan how to set the thresholds right for my ears so i can learn the sounds

thanks for sharing your experiences helps with the learning curve

[Slow & Low]

Yes, ID's I dig them all down from 35 to say 10 and 90 - 98 not found anything that isn't junk coke with mine comes in between 65 - 75 on G-Max Programme 5 then if changing ot Deus Fast it comes in at 55 - 58

At the end of the day anything with a good tone i dig, i do get some faint stutters of good high sounds but dig to find zilch.

Steven.

[Kmarsh]

Yes, ID's I dig them all down from 35 to say 10 and 90 - 98 not found anything that isn't junk coke with mine comes in between 65 - 75 on G-Max Programme 5 then if changing ot Deus Fast it comes in at 55 - 58

At the end of the day anything with a good tone i dig, i do get some faint stutters of good high sounds but dig to find zilch.

Steven.

so interesting about the different ids you have both spoken about k marsh i notched out 95 to 99 yesterday and it still came through with a 98 signal any ideas does this happen to you,learning the tones is most important to me as i would like to hunt by tone alone is this possible do you think

i do think at one time this big silver coin came in at 28 scary its a huge five pound coin and everywhere i have read this is the coke area so gets ignored looking forward to my tests and some answers big silver comimg in on the same spectrum as coke is not one i will relish not sure i will be digging thousands of pieces of coke in the hope that one of them is a large silver coin WHOOOPS anyway jimmy well done on your hammered keep um coming giving us the ids is so helpful and very informative and helps me to plan how to set the thresholds right for my ears so i can learn the sounds
thanks for sharing your experiences helps with the learning curve

Right, lets have a look here...... ZILCH can happen with any machine and I know it does... Had a scratchy but nice tone today, scraped a couple of inch with me foot and it started to sing, lifted a plain medieval finger ring... this i have done with any machine i have had, so its not a fault...
I have had silvers at 86, I reckon its do with quality and thickness of the target... could be wrong.
Big mistake to notch out these high numbers, My bronze axe hoard started with a 98 till I took out a bit of soil.....
coke can come up at different Id's depending on program and frequency.
you have 180 ish possible different tones on 9 programs, I'll stick to tone and vdi. thank you....
these are my own opinions, so please no rebuttles.....

[Slow & Low]

Thats Good Kmarsh,

Seems some sensible reasoning explanations for the ID's. Thanks

Have you got any suggestions, thoughts ideas what myself, Sugar & Rolo could do to get the Deus to detect targets deeper than 6" please.

Cheers

Steven.