Hammered fragment for id please

[StevieJ]

Hi All,
I found this fragment of hammered today, 2-3 inches down on pasture . Very pleased, as I think it's the oldest coin I have found to date (my earliest so far being the Mary testoon I've posted about previously).
It gave a jumpy 15 on the manticore (which I treated myself to for christmas ). Settings were All terrain general unmodified. Found in Lanarkshire but as far as I can tell, I don't think it is Scottish (happy to be corrected though). Any help with identification would be very gratefully received, although I appreciate it's seen much better days. I've orientated the photo's of the obverse to what I think is correct for the bust (so apologies the photo on scale appears upside down). I've added water to coin in a couple of pictures to help bring out the inscription.

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Incidentally, I've only washed it with distilled water, so there was very little silver sulphide on this coin. This is a complete contrasts to the state of the George III six pence that I found not far way in the same field (viewtopic.php?p=1335574#p1335574). Can anyone tell me why it is that silver coins from the same field tarnish in a completely different manner? Is it the quality/source of the silver? Or perhaps the six pence was lost in the cow shed before the manure was spread on the field?

Thanks for looking and all ideas,
Stevie

[Alan Black]

York mint.

[StevieJ]

Thanks Alan, much appreciated. Incidentally, what gave it away as York mint please?

I’ll see if I can track that hairdo down now.

[Allectus]

Edward III York penny.

[StevieJ]

Edward III York penny.

Brilliant, thank you Allectus. Very much appreciated indeed.

[StevieJ]

York mint.

Got it. Ebo-rachi. I could see the RAC but hadn’t made the connection with Roman name of the city. Of course, Latin

Thanks Alan/Allectus

[ManOnTheMoon]

Got it. Ebo-rachi. I could see the "RAC" but hadn’t made the connection with Roman name of the city. Of course, Latin

StevieJ, well done for spotting that. I confess I cannot decipher it on your coin.

I sometimes attempt to match MDF coin identifications to the Spink catalogue (2023 edition), in a effort to educate myself on coin identification. I confess that I don't often succeed, and this particular coin is a case in point. Could either you, Allectus or Alan Black please point out the "RAC" lettering that apparently identifies the York mint?

Additionally, which of the Edward III pennies i.e. Spink numbering, does this coin represent in the catalogue? I really do struggle to make sense of the identifying lettering and mints on these old hammered coins, and when they are as battered as this example I am left utterly bewildered that any identification can be made ... but it is.

Help. Please.

[Allectus]

[CIVI/TAS/EB]O/RACI. The 'RACI' is as plain as day....Quatrefoil at centre.

[Allectus]

[+EDW]ARDVS & annulet between pellets.

[StevieJ]

StevieJ, Could either you, Allectus or Alan Black please point out the "RAC" lettering that apparently identifies the York mint?

Will do but out at the moment. I find the Numista site is really useful as give the inscription in the font eg

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces376104.html

[StevieJ]

Could either you, Allectus or Alan Black please point out the "RAC" lettering that apparently identifies the York mint?

RACI highlighted. See the link above for the inscription and script/font.

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Regarding Spink number - I only got a copy recently and so am not that familiar with it, but I guess the coin could be 1531, 1585, 1602, 1604, 1605, 1613 1629?

Edit: 1585

Cheers
Stevie

[Makro 2]

It may have seen better days but that's all part of this little coins history and a Hammy is a Hammy whatever it's condition and that is always a good find

Well done on saving this little coins future...I rather like it

Regards.
M2

[StevieJ]

It may have seen better days but that's all part of this little coins history and a Hammy is a Hammy whatever it's condition and that is always a good find

Well done on saving this little coins future...I rather like it

Regards.
M2

Thanks M2, and very true. I’m certainly very pleased with it and it’s from such an interesting time in Scottish/English history up here.