Large Old Medal or Presentation Piece ?

[Dave8472]

Hi all, pulled this one out over 6 inches down, still in the process of trying to clean it, any ideas, don't recognise the portrait at all, it does look to have a date on that looks like 1890

It is very large, 38mm dia, looks like copper/brass/bronze
Dave

[stargazer]

That looks a cracker of a find !

I think it might be older than 1890. The hair and dress suggests 18th. C

Could the date be 1690 ?

[claybreaker88]

Hi nice coin/medal may I ask how you cleaned it up so quickly if you dont mind.

Thanks

[Dave8472]

Re Cleaning, I always do the hot water and washing up liquid with a toothbrush on everything to get the worst off, because I didn't know quite what it was made off I first gave it a short time in Baking soda, ok it not silver, then had a quick dip in hydrocloric acid, you must do this with caution, as it is brutal stuff, part cleaned it, its now in some vinigar, but it doesn't want to get any better, can see some of the markings but can't quite work out what it is saying

Dave

[Blackadder43]

Look here, although the only one that resembles yours is the Lord wellington one, but i dont think its that one....
http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co ... badges.htm
Could you write down all the letters from the bust side and all the words you can make out from the back?
Do i see the numbers 1890? or 1690
I think i see the words found and stone but not sure....

[Dave8472]

OK, marking or words I can see

Found ?????
Stone Laid
Of 9 189?
OP??
???????

Above the bust it may say Robert

Can't see any more, clearer on picture than under magnifieying glass

Some high quality scans here

http://www.8472.co.uk/medal.jpg

http://www.8472.co.uk/medal01.jpg

Dave

[Blackadder43]

Excellent ID Deano......nice find to.....ebay has quite a selection, i expect you should be able to locate yours quite easily...

[Dave8472]

Well done Deano it is looking good, doing a search now
Thanks
Dave

[Jayreef]

1899 by the looks as well

Temple Sunday School as well by the way

[Dave8472]

Think it may say Temple Sunday School, and there is a primary school next door to the Park ? looking at the 1907 map there was still a school in the same location

Still can't see the date may be 188? or 189?

Am going to try an overnighter in olive oil and lemon juice to see if I can clean it a bit more

Dave

[Jayreef]

heres a UKDFD one too

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showre ... 72&cat=all

seems popular if you read the description

[Dave8472]

Thanks all for you help ID'ing, still haven't found the exact same one on the internet, seems to be quite common, I did get excited when I first found it as it was quite deep, below the dept of the early Vic pennys at the same location

Will investigate more to see if I can trace the School, as there are some very close by

PS , still can't get it any cleaner, any ideas ?

The overnight in Olive Oil and Lemon didn't work, nore did Vinigar ? it even had some time in hydrocloric acid, but the crushy stuff won't budge, only thing I haven't tried yet it the electric thing I have read about on here

Dave

[Blackadder43]

Olive oil trick can take weeks to lift the crud...
I personaly would not recommend the electrolsis on this item.....if you are not careful and havent done it before it will ruin it...
Find a crappy coin you arent fussed about and try for yourself....i ruined 2 old pennys experimenting with this and found it far to aggressive.....

[Dave8472]

Thanks for that Bruce, will get it back in the oil
Dave

[johny-blaze]

Olive oil trick can take weeks to lift the crud...
I personaly would not recommend the electrolsis on this item.....if you are not careful and havent done it before it will ruin it...
Find a crappy coin you arent fussed about and try for yourself....i ruined 2 old pennys experimenting with this and found it far to aggressive.....

same here , you need to be carefull with this method