Hammered Coins ID Numbers ?
Hammered Coins ID Numbers ?
Has anyone found any hammered coins with the AT Max and able to share ID Numbers?
Thanks
Phil
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Phil
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The screen numbers shown when a target / find is located, the Target ID etc
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I'm no expert but a far as I can work out the answer would depend on the depth, orientation, type of soil, the size of the object and how well you know your detector. Most ignore the IDs and listen for the tones.mrix wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:26 pm The screen numbers shown when a target / find is located, the Target ID etc
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Thanks all, yeah I'm getting used to sorting the tones in my head as im listening, it was more as a general guide. thanks again
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Yes this is true there are many factors which could change the Target ID of a specific find and as you say over time many do tend to get used to and rely more on the sounds producedhaggz wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:44 pm I'm no expert but a far as I can work out the answer would depend on the depth, orientation, type of soil, the size of the object and how well you know your detector. Most ignore the IDs and listen for the tones.![]()
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I still find the numbers very useful. Certain areas like 84/85 or 72/73 or 92, are hotspots to what I predominantly search for and certain coins like old pennies nearly always hit the same number. I also find (with my 400i) that if the number replicates when swinging from another direction, that"s also another good sign, ie a strong both ways 92 = a good chance of a silver based coin.mrix wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:51 pm Yes this is true there are many factors which could change the Target ID of a specific find and as you say over time many do tend to get used to and rely more on the sounds produced![]()
The 400i to me doesn’t have a strong sound vocabulary so I keep a close eye on the numbers.
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Audio is far more reliable that what any TID can give and also far more reliable at depth as well,if you go solely by what a screen tells you will walk over decent targets as well.
This is why it imperative to have a decent set of headphones and also using the audio threshold also as that can give you a ' whisper audio indication' on those really deep targets that cannot trigger either the TID or Audio circuits,those deep targets are the desirable one.
This is why it imperative to have a decent set of headphones and also using the audio threshold also as that can give you a ' whisper audio indication' on those really deep targets that cannot trigger either the TID or Audio circuits,those deep targets are the desirable one.
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Dig every good tone never look at numbers no more and my finds have significantly increased and lots more hammerds
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As a user of the AT Max, I've found it always wise to dig mid-tone signals which foil also comes in at. I've found my Edward hammered coins in this range. The same can be said for any thin, particularly small silvers. On the other hand, my only larger Queen Elizabeth hammered Sixpence came in at high 60s (high tone). As mentioned, Size, depth, soil and thickness are all factors. If you ignore foil sounding mid-tone signals (40-50s), you'll never find small silver. These may also be broken signals if not lying flat.
Generally I find anything over 42ish has potential but I only notch to 35 to allow some tolerance. Anything under this is usually iron unless it's also jumping to a higher tone which could be something of varying shape or mixed metal (i.e. Buckles, Buttons etc.) I wouldn't dig anything low-tone and repeatable under 40 anyway, as it's always iron in my experience. But beware, I buried a couple of Roman coins in very highly mineralized soil and they rang in at '00' but with a clean repeatable high-tone (no iron tone with iron audio on), so where do you draw the line. However, I can't ever remember seeing a consistent '00' high-tone signal at any other time. Deep Iron is a another thing entirely of course as these are generally in the form of high whiny tones. Whiny being the give away for me but I still dig them every time![BigGrin [88/]](./images/smilies/88_EmoticonsHDcom.png)
Generally I find anything over 42ish has potential but I only notch to 35 to allow some tolerance. Anything under this is usually iron unless it's also jumping to a higher tone which could be something of varying shape or mixed metal (i.e. Buckles, Buttons etc.) I wouldn't dig anything low-tone and repeatable under 40 anyway, as it's always iron in my experience. But beware, I buried a couple of Roman coins in very highly mineralized soil and they rang in at '00' but with a clean repeatable high-tone (no iron tone with iron audio on), so where do you draw the line. However, I can't ever remember seeing a consistent '00' high-tone signal at any other time. Deep Iron is a another thing entirely of course as these are generally in the form of high whiny tones. Whiny being the give away for me but I still dig them every time
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Although not yet a specialist I'm slowly learning the ropes. My detector is a 4 yr old AT Max Garret.
I've not found a significant number of hammered coins only about two ! The first is George 3rd sixpence. This came in at about 76 VDI and unbroken high pitched tone. The second is a small 1668 hammered bronze token. reading about 55 with high pitch tone.
The rest I've found is mostly post 1700 coins which range from 55 to 85 VDI. Again high tone.
The lads/gals who advise listening to the tone is very good advice. My experience with the AT Max is use both. Anything from 40 to 90 with the same reading when you turn the coil 90 degrees to the original 'ping' is worth the dig. Combine this with high pitch and you could be laughing when you dig.
Disappointing digs have been a mixture of tones with crackly low pitch mixed in with hi pitch tone combined with hi VDI reading then low VDI when you turn the coil.. I find digging these produces horse shoes and various junky iron objects with some good metal thrown in.
Of course the proof is with the digging ! I do tend to concentrate on plus 45 VDI up to 85ish to save time in a patch which gives several readings. On 'clean' areas I'd probably dig the miss-match areas if good solid high ping heard.
So to conclude with use both. Tone and VDI. Depending what you are looking for as I know our American friends love their relics and hoping to find Jesse-Jame's Six shooter or a lost Winchester 73 !! ....
I've not found a significant number of hammered coins only about two ! The first is George 3rd sixpence. This came in at about 76 VDI and unbroken high pitched tone. The second is a small 1668 hammered bronze token. reading about 55 with high pitch tone.
The rest I've found is mostly post 1700 coins which range from 55 to 85 VDI. Again high tone.
The lads/gals who advise listening to the tone is very good advice. My experience with the AT Max is use both. Anything from 40 to 90 with the same reading when you turn the coil 90 degrees to the original 'ping' is worth the dig. Combine this with high pitch and you could be laughing when you dig.
Disappointing digs have been a mixture of tones with crackly low pitch mixed in with hi pitch tone combined with hi VDI reading then low VDI when you turn the coil.. I find digging these produces horse shoes and various junky iron objects with some good metal thrown in.
Of course the proof is with the digging ! I do tend to concentrate on plus 45 VDI up to 85ish to save time in a patch which gives several readings. On 'clean' areas I'd probably dig the miss-match areas if good solid high ping heard.
So to conclude with use both. Tone and VDI. Depending what you are looking for as I know our American friends love their relics and hoping to find Jesse-Jame's Six shooter or a lost Winchester 73 !! ....
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I’ve had a number of silver coins reading at a solid 92 .
Don’t discount the early 90s.
Don’t discount the early 90s.
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