Possible small gold coin for ID

Finds and artefacts found while out metal detecting which require identifying.
Forum rules
IMPORTANT
Please remember to read the in-post text when creating a ID request as it explains the mandatory requirements necessary to gain approval for your ID request.
Post Reply
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Possible small gold coin for ID

Post by sweepstick47 »

This is not a detecting find as I'd remember it so I expect it came into the shop some twenty odd years ago amongst a mixed lot of 'foreign' coins? I do the odd display for a charity group and to simplify setting-up I've made a series of display cases to hold them with the intention of 'eventually' labelling them - quite a laborious task which I am yet to start.
I have to assume this will turn out to be faked but I thought I'd post it here for a more informed opinion. The design appears to be Greek? but that's just my view. It's heavy for it's mass, weighing 1.34gr.
Here's the pics [81/]
Thanks... Eric
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
A disservice is no service at all.
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Post by sweepstick47 »

With the pics now loaded I checked with 'Google lense' which says it's liable to be a quarter stater of Nectanebo II or Philip II of Mecedon. I remain sceptical and await opinions from you learned peeps. Thanks for looking. Cheers Eric
A disservice is no service at all.
Raptor22
Posts: 185
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:17 am
Location: Canada
Has thanked: 191 times
Been thanked: 204 times

Post by Raptor22 »

I looked up the coin and the weight should be about 2.02 grams so it says? But other site says 1.87 grams .😊
User avatar
fred
Posts: 18910
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:15 pm
Location: Kent
Has thanked: 6980 times
Been thanked: 15046 times

Post by fred »

You'll probably never know from just a photo. [81/]
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Post by sweepstick47 »

Raptor22 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:27 am I looked up the coin and the weight should be about 2.02 grams so it says? But other site says 1.87 grams .😊

Thanks Raptor, looking closer at the surface of the coin, it just doesn't have the smooth texture of gold, I think that and the weight variations are more ammunition to indicate a 'wrong'un! [27/]
Cheers Eric
A disservice is no service at all.
User avatar
fred
Posts: 18910
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:15 pm
Location: Kent
Has thanked: 6980 times
Been thanked: 15046 times

Post by fred »

sweepstick47 wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:15 am Thanks Raptor, looking closer at the surface of the coin, it just doesn't have the smooth texture of gold, I think that and the weight variations are more ammunition to indicate a 'wrong'un! [27/]
Cheers Eric
The surface actually looks ok for gold that has been bouncing around in soil or sand and it doesn't show the normal indicators of cast or modern gold plated fakes. That doesn't mean that it's genuine but certainly worthy of further investigation. The weight is credible for a quarter stater too. [81/]
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Post by sweepstick47 »

fred wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:26 am The surface actually looks ok for gold that has been bouncing around in soil or sand and it doesn't show the normal indicators of cast or modern gold plated fakes. That doesn't mean that it's genuine but certainly worthy of further investigation. The weight is credible for a quarter stater too. [81/]
Thanks Fred, which sits nicely with the oft used phrase -
"never say never", perhaps it had better remain in the 'curio' box pending a little more 'digging' - just in case. Cheers Eric [81/]
A disservice is no service at all.
Alan Black
Posts: 745
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:11 pm
Has thanked: 916 times
Been thanked: 700 times

Post by Alan Black »

Quite a curious coin but it does need testing. [81/]
mini dan
Posts: 312
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:38 pm
Has thanked: 183 times
Been thanked: 172 times

Post by mini dan »

Would a density test in water help?
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=20447&hilit=density
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Post by sweepstick47 »

Yes Dan, it should indicate what carat the gold is (if indeed it is gold) [81/]
Cheers Eric
A disservice is no service at all.
mini dan
Posts: 312
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:38 pm
Has thanked: 183 times
Been thanked: 172 times

Post by mini dan »

I should say that I have no knowledge of coins!
Coins from Caria area (islands off rhodes), form Kaunas (aka Kaunos) had K-A on them like yours. It is Dalyan area, Turkey. Websites like Wildwinds can be seached to see examples of coins with K-A on (Caria, Kaunos)
The weight is correct for a trihemiobol (1/8th of a stater) but they were usually silver.
It is exactly the right weight for a gold hemihekte
It could be gold plated in which case the density test should come out closer to silver. I hope it is gold though! The density of silver is 10.50-ish, that of gold 19-ish.

I hope this helps and I hope it turns out to be genuine, whatever it is. It would be fun to know if you ever find out
User avatar
sweepstick47
Moderator
Posts: 23457
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 6103 times
Been thanked: 8532 times

Post by sweepstick47 »

Thank you very much Dan for your detailed explanation coming as it does from having anything but "no knowledge of coins', there's a distinct possibility you seriously undersold your abilities! [08/]
I'll have to do more research after completing the recommended density test to see if I can add anything to your findings. Thanks once again for your research on it [81/]
Regards Eric
A disservice is no service at all.
Post Reply

Return to “Identification of Detecting Finds”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Etruscan_Toad, king79, Stevensimmons, storminorm and 68 guests