Deus Info For Dummies!

[Kmarsh]

Yes it is, as detectors go.....................

[holagaz]

When getting a signal with a high number the audio sounded strange and ended up being iron
B-)

I find that the iron tends to come in at about 96!! And ALL coke under 30. I've stopped digging coke now I have the Deus, unlike when I had the GMP. I've dug it a couple of times with big iron just to prove I've got the hang of the tones / ID numbers and been right every time.

[froggyfagan]

Beware of electric fences!
I wanted to detect alongside a stream yesterday and couldn't understand the strange blipping on my machine until my dog went under the barbed wire into the stream and gave out a yelp,I presumed the electricity was off as there were no animals in the field,but there was a herd of cattle about 5/600 metres upstream,so the whole valley was electrified,gave it up in the end!
Must admit I was a bit relieved,I thought at first that my deus had a problem.
I just wondered if anybody else has had similar problems?

[Danzigman]

Hi Froggyfagan.. I posted something simular in page 5. - On of the farmers have a Dog Guard.. I thourgth is was the electric fence to cow who gave ruthmic noice in the morning and wet grass.. No It was some kind of Hidden fence to keep dog in on property... VERY NOISY.... I dont know what you call them over there in UK.. Hope you understand.. I guess specially in weet conditions it can be a problem..

[Slow & Low]

Hello

There are many kinds of Electric fences & even Electric Wire/netting types for keeping smaller animals out down to rabit sizes though these are expensive. It maybe that your dog came face to face with a fox or Badger? or you dog walked over something sharp in the stream? a Electric fence must be visable shurely ?

I know my ideas can be strange but you never know could be a few reasons.

Steven.

[froggyfagan]

Hello

There are many kinds of Electric fences & even Electric Wire/netting types for keeping smaller animals out down to rabit sizes though these are expensive. It maybe that your dog came face to face with a fox or Badger? or you dog walked over something sharp in the stream? a Electric fence must be visable shurely ?

I know my ideas can be strange but you never know could be a few reasons.

Steven.

I did read all of this thread before writing and noted Danzigman's comments.
The electric cattle/sheep fences here (in France) can be very visible orange,blue or white tape,however the cheapest and most common is just a smooth wire which goes around the perimeter of the fields,as in this case,the dog touched it not once but twice,I was still getting signals from the fence over 100metres away.

[sugar]

glad you guys are using this topic to discuss the deus i havent been on for a bit as i have been getting to know the deus.ok things i have found out is just realised why it played up on my new permission the other day as i was near electric sheep fencing so thanks for entering that on here at least i have an answer i therefore went across the road to a seeded field i found a coin and two buttons every good signal which probably numbered a dozen could all be pinpointed with my garrett from the surface i did this test so that i would know in my own mind that i was not imagining things that it was seeing shallow targets. i have a coin garden and i have in it a 2p 10p and a 50p, yes it has only just been set and i will add to it an old gold engagment ring and try and find some silver and of course a roman. at the moment it sees the 10p at six inches but no id it gives me a grunt for the 2p and it does not see the 50p and yes i know it is not a proper test as there is no halo there which i do believe in but dare i say it that the etrac picks up all three. keeping an open mind i love the weight and the no wires about and can see in freshly ploughed fields where the finds have been bought to the surface that finds could be many, i do have a problem with it sounding off on 1.2.3.4. even when the discrim is set at 8 which is rather annoying but i have a theory and am about to put it to the test, i am working on standard programes and have restored them to make sure they are original and i do find the best depth at the moment is on the pitch programe i am going to do some airtests today and then if not satisfied will ring nigel for some advice there is a plus to all this i am not doing so much digging and my recovery time is seconds instead of minutes. i hope no one comes uo with the old adage you have to go over it as i spent three hours and got only one signal a little deeper around seven inches and it was a four inch piece of metal' anyway you guys i will sort this problem out it will not beat me as i can see that once learnt it could be quite a useful machine and for you fisherman out there i liken it to a top feeder wheras the etrac is a bottom feeder. i only take the deus out as i feel that is the only way to get to know what it can do i am wondering whether we do have a bad batch of something control coil who knows and that the machine i have is not the same for some reason as what you other guys have got more testing today HAPPY HUNTING ALL OF YOU

[Slow & Low]

Hello Glenfiddich, froggyfagan & Sugar !

Thanks for your additions on this thread. i was interested re the Error in the Manual re Descrimination being incorrect at 75 and should be 7.5 ! how many more errors ?

Can we ask a user of the Deus 2 to post one of his programme settings for us all to see please which is suitable for Pasture fields. Based on customising the Basic 1 programme. Myself, Sugar & possibly others here would be very interested what the more advance users settings are.

Preferably you have had good finds with these settings, possibly Silver & Hammys

I would really appreciate if someone could do this for us.

Cheers

Steven.

[Danzigman]

Hi Guys. About my discrimination.. For thoug of you who have been visiting my Photobucket (link under my signature XP Deus CS 1220 XD) you can se claerly thet I find no usefull coins.. So after 200 300 you get a littel tire of them..
So I saw this Ged /PeaceHavens on Youtube.. He simple vacumcleaned the park for silver on DIS 70.. then he go over it againe in lover setting.. So i just ran the experiment myself.. with succes.. Normally I use 8 to 9,5.. And evalu ever target if I want to dig..
On fields i often dig at 25 and up.. But normally never get anything good before 40.. No RULE..
I temp to use GM Power a lot, combined with fast asd NON MOTION.. To tandem Nonmotion and an other program you soon will have experience on low numbers... But I get hot rock to..
Yesterday I was detecting and old farmhouse form around 1700 burned down in 1952.. (I have to tell that here on Laesoe old farmhouses are with Seagrass on roof.. It cant burn, and it cant roth avay. This feature is the signature of this Island and the only place in the world to be seen - I can put a link to thoes interested in history)
But back to story.. I did the house in GMP dic 9.. And Was digging 350 year old seagras and Iron.. I keept on having nice good signal only to find iron.. Not even horse shoe gav avay the clue. So later someone told me I should have use other program.. but im after the small silver coins, since they are the only thing who stay alive...
I ask for 2 advices.. What did i do wrong ? And anyone have ide about the earphones ( I have ask before) solutions.. Link to a rebuild one.??
Take care.. go digging..

[hammyman]

Hello Glenfiddich, froggyfagan & Sugar !


Can we ask a user of the Deus 2 to post one of his programme settings for us all to see please which is suitable for Pasture fields. Based on customising the Basic 1 programme. Myself, Sugar & possibly others here would be very interested what the more advance users settings are.

.

I have already given you a pasture prog' Have you even bothered trying it? I have posted the hammies etc it has found.Check my previous finds threads.You moan about lack of depth the prog' I have given you searches silly deep.It will take time to learn what it is telling you,because you need to dig the deep 'whisper' type signals.

[GREGGOWREX]

HM.......Deep breathes ...in....out....in......out ...your gonna POP if your not careful lolol .

[hammyman]

Regarding the base discrim'.The more discrim',the less depth.Below is a post taken from another forum.If you look at the data you can see what affects the different settings have on depth.Today, we were at the "borehole" on our testsite with 2 Deus for another try-out according to the INGO standard, as a follow-up of the last test.
The objective was to record what effect setting the individual of parameters in the menu have on depthperformance.
Testpiece was (again) the 2 RM-piece (1939 Paul v. Hindenburg) and as my base setting I chose my personal program "FOREST" comprising of the following parameters:

- Disk 0
- 4 Tones, but effectively 3 Tones. T1&2 200Hz., T3 317Hz., T4 791Hz. Threshold T2/3 22, T3/4 80.
- Sens 95, Power 3
- 12 Khz.
- Reactivity 0
- Audio Response 2
- Silencer 1
- G.B Manual 80, following the measurement by the DEUS.

Test:

Using the above mentioned values, the 2RM piece was placed in the ground so that it could just be detected. This was at 23 cm ( the ground was bonedry and the coil not fully charged)
Now every individual parameter was changed and the resulting depthperformance recorded. You should read the results as follows: on the left the setting, on the right the performance in cm's
With depthperformance I mean: a usable signal you would dig.

We started of with the Sensivity.

Sensitivity:

80 / 18cm
85 / 20cm
90 / 21cm
95 / 23cm
98 / 23cm

Frequency:

4 Khz / 23cm
8 Khz / 22,5cm
12 Khz / 23cm
18 Khz / 22cm


Now instead of the big 2RM piece, we tried a silver Hohlpfennig weighing 0,12gr, because frequency should have a noticable effect on the small finds capability of a detector.

4 Khz / 7cm
12 Khz / 12cm
18 Khz / 12,5cm

After which we proceeded again with the 2RM piece and with Recoveryspeed.

Recovery:

0 / 23cm
1 / 23cm
2 / 23,5cm
3 / 22cm
4 / 20cm
5 / 19cm

Audio Response:

0 /23cm
1 / 23cm
2 / 23cm
3 / 23cm
4 / 23cm
5 / 24,5cm

Discrimination:

0 / 23cm
1 / 20cm
2 / 19,5cm
3 / 17,5cm
4 / 17,5cm
10 / 16,5cm
20 / 16,5cm
40 / 16,5cm
60 / 16,5cm

Ground (Deus itself measured a value of 78):

77 / 25cm (but it was totally impossible to detect at 77, due to an incredible amount of false signals)
78 / 24cm
80 / 23cm
85 / 22,5cm
90 / 22cm

Unfortunately I totally forgot about the Silencer settings, but I will test this soon.
I couldn't change the Powersetting, despite the 12 kHz I couldn't change it in the Expertmode.
Obviously the Powersetting is coupled not only with the 4 kHz, but als with some other parameter.
I haven't found out which other setting is blocking the Power parameter in the Expertmode.
May be another Deus user can help me out.

Edited: 30.05.2011:

PS: - just tested the effects of Silencer- and Powersettings

With a freshly charged coil I can now detect the 2RM piece at 26 cm - so it pays off to have a fully charged coil - yesterday with Audioresponse at 5
in program FOREST I could only detect it at 24,5cm.

Power:

I tried all POWER settings more than once, but I can't, for the life of me, find any difference in depthperformance!
This surprises me greatly, I have taken my time with this test - the difference is truly insignificant.
I will use setting "1" in the future to save on batterylife and ask myself: why is it made adjustable at all?

Silencer:

The Silencer setting also doesn't have any noticeable effect on depthperformance - whether set in -1 or 4, performance is the same.
Setting 4 resulted in a less crisp signal and is therefore better not used.
Interesting would be to know if the Silencer has any effect on Recoveryspeed…..

[hammyman]

HM.......Deep breathes ...in....out....in......out ...your gonna POP if your not careful lolol .

I'm chilled Greg.

[Slow & Low]

WOW !

Thats sums that up. Will take me a while to go through all them. Excellent stuff.

Thank You for sharing this with us, really appreciated.

Cheers

Steven.

[Slow & Low]

Also Just to add ! my Deus Remote & Coil have just arrived by Courier. Coil ok and Remote has been replaced with new !

Now I can get out while the weather is dry.

Steven.