new detector just for the beach

[Royal120]

Got myself a new c scope 4 pi , I cant wait to give this a go on the beach has anyone else had one or got one? Are they any good for blackppol or southport beaches?

I do know that i will be doing loads of digging with this detector.

Has anyone got any good tips?? Im new to detecting.

kev.

[pete350]

I just got one of these as an "upgrade" I was prepared to sacrifice descrimination for the ability to detect coins 12 inches below the sand. Once you have dug the target up the cscope tells you what postcode it is in so a pinpointer is very useful, the holes you dig will be wider than they are deep You will dig 5minutes for half a nail and yes you will do a lot of pointless digging.
I wish I had not bought it, I prefer my old tesoro compadre, its lighter, its simpler to use, it discriminates out nails, its depth is similar to Cscope and most important to me it tells me exactly where the target is! My 4PI wont find a coin at 12", 6" would be optimistic .
These are my opinions but they are different from other users so my machine might be defective, it is brand new and I have only used it about 3 times.
I only went on Southport beach once but the sand was frozen solid I gave up after digging several pieces of foil
The PI machine should be at home on wet sand but beware, the tide can surround you if you are on one of the many sand bars, I saw plenty of cars trapped by the sea in the 1970s when I lived there .
Good luck and happy hunting

[pete350]

Just done 2 hours on the beach with 4PI, notice the jewel in the crown in the centre, a modern 1p My nail collection is coming on in leaps and bounds

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[Christoph1945]

Hi Pete, that haul looks about right for a CS4PI. What settings were you using? Some beaches have more scrap than others hidden in them; try Talacre in Flintshire, North East Wales, and you will see what I mean!

I use a CS4PI for beach work, but am still getting used to it. I recently emailed the Treasure Hunting Magazine and asked if one of their professionals could do a full field test ( beach test ) and acurate report on the performance of the CS4PI.

Chris

[pete350]

Hi Pete, that haul looks about right for a CS4PI. What settings were you using? Some beaches have more scrap than others hidden in them; try Talacre in Flintshire, North East Wales, and you will see what I mean!

I use a CS4PI for beach work, but am still getting used to it. I recently emailed the Treasure Hunting Magazine and asked if one of their professionals could do a full field test ( beach test ) and acurate report on the performance of the CS4PI.

Chris

Chris, the sensitivity was in the green, just on the cusp of back ground noise and the other one on about 3.5, I must say the second knob just seems to alter the target sound and little else!
This was only my 4th outing with it and I hate it but I will persevere as it cost me £250 .
I went to a part of the beach where I know there is very little, next time I go out I will go to the same area with my tesoro for a direct comparison. ( Petes field test )

[Christoph1945]

Hi Pete, I think that the CS4PI has, perhaps, far more potential that many of us are giving it credit for. As far as I can see, at the moment, we need a better manual for the machine, and in the meanwhile I plan on doing some mores beach testing with mine.

Using a gents gold wedding ring set at different depths, I was able to detect it up to one foot before I was rained off the beach. the better depth only came after moving the righthand knob to 3.5 or 4.0. I'm afraid C-Scope are going to have to up their game somewhat if they are going sell a lot more of these machines.

Chris

[pete350]

Mine had the wrong manual with it, I had to read it on their website
If you laid it on the surface and hovered over it would it pick it up at 12"?
Mine is nowhere near 12" with a 2p coin but it will pick up my spade at 2 feet away on the horizontal, maybe I should tip the machine on its side for maximum depth

[Excalman]

For those of you wanting to test the depths of your machines i found the following quote that i believe is from a post from Mr Foster...

For a realistic air test, lay the coil on a piece of 1in thick wood, MDF, or plastic on the ground surface, then wave a target over the top of the coil. The range obtained will not be measurably different to that if the target was buried. The above is true for PI detectors, but not necessarily so for induction balance types, where the operating frequency can make a very noticeable difference.

Not tried it myself but may speed up some of your tests. <:-P

Paul.....

[Fusion]

That test is only suitable for PI machines, but it is quite a good one.
It is unsuitable for VLF/IB machines because they pick up a significant ground signal, which varies as you move the coil over the ground.

[Christoph1945]

maybe I should tip the machine on its side for maximum depth

Mmmm, never thought of that! Lets give it a try. B-)