Codd Bottle Find

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lmwilkie
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Codd Bottle Find

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Hi my husband dug up a bottle at work last week whilst digging foundations. I had never even heard of or seen a codd before this, so Ive been very interested in trying to find out more about it.
I have searched the internet and forums and I cant find one with the same embossed lettering, it has embossed on the front 'Ross & Co Celebrated Bottlers' it also has the letter 'Q' embossed on the bottom, it was found in Newcastle upon Tyne.
I am very interested in finding out more about the bottle if anyone can help, I know there was a Ross & Co of Newcastle but I can only find the stoneware bottles with the penny farthings on the front.
PLEASE HELP! Ive hunted the internet for days and joined a couple of other forums but no one seems to have ever come accross one :)
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Im Going to try clean it up and use a better camera to take some more pics, been reading the cleaning tips :D
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Slightly unusual in that it appears to be a trade sample rather than made specifically for a soda / mineral water manufacturer, as normally these bottles would have the retailers name & the town from which they ply their trade.

Yours, on the other hand, bears only the name of the glassworks where it was made - Ross's of Sunderland (the 'Q' on the base is the mark of their Ayres Quay bottle manufactory) - and 'Celebrated Bottlers'. So I guess this was carried about by a sales rep to show potential customers what their goods looked like.

Not sure about date, but I'm guessing pretty late as far as Codds go, which would be borne out by the 'stock' design and fairly pale aqua colour - so, certainly post 1890 and probably into the 1920/30s.

As for value, not a lot I'm afraid, Codds are more novelty value unless they're a particular local rarity, I doubt there'd be much call for this, unusual as it is, particularly as it looks a bit 'sick' - frosted appearance caused by acid in the soil leaching out the soda content of the glass to leave an insoluble silicate layer - unfortunately there's no easy way to polish this out (certainly not worth doing on a bottle of this ilk), but you might be very lucky & get £5-10 off an internet auction site if you were fortunate enough to find somebody who collects trade samples.

Rub it with oil to mask the sickness & put it on the mantlepiece ;)
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Thankyou very much for all the info,I wasnt bothered about selling it as ive seen there worth about £5 -£10, just very interested in the history of the bottle :) as I have never seen these before, hadnt even heard of them before my husband dug it up.
Thank you very much :)
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lmwilkie wrote:Im Going to try clean it up and use a better camera to take some more pics, been reading the cleaning tips :D
Be careful how you clean it, I cracked a poison bottle by putting it in too hot water, when I took it out it cooled to quick and cracked in two :-O

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There was a ross & co of newcastle who made stout/ginger and I have seen a lot of stoneware with ross & co celebrated bottlers but they didnt seem to do sodas as I cant find anything on this :)
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Thanks ill take extra care ;)
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Post by digg4em! »

lmwilkie wrote:There was a ross & co of newcastle who made stout/ginger and I have seen a lot of stoneware with ross & co celebrated bottlers but they didnt seem to do sodas as I cant find anything on this :)

Yes this is a ross & co newcastle bottle and not what excavator said earlier. ;)
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Post by doglikesparky »

its allways nice to find a Codd, even nicer to find the early long necked patent 4's or indeed a nice cobalt blue one.

over 30 years of bottle collecting ive found the best way of cleaning these little fellows is to crush a handfull of eggshells and hot water (not boiling) even though they seem to withstand very hot tempretures, i wouldnt try it. pour the lot in and shake vigourously untill the dirt comes out. personally i use shot gun shot it works a treat but eggshells are pretty good too.

little fact for you... these bottles tended to be filled upside down so the marble would lock into place with the preassure of the gas above.
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Hate to disagree..but Dipping is the Worst thing you can do to any bottle ;;z . it looks awful ;;z .. and it takes away the top layer ;;z . leave it alone irridescence is natural thats how it is. I was offered a blue codd some years ago for a great price until i noticed it had been dipped, i gave it back straight away. I also noticed someone had dipped a sealed mallet on ebay a few weeks ago .. unbelevable that someone can do this to such an old bit of glass... sorry rant over.

ps you can allways tell a dipped bottle.. they look like they have been rubbed on a carpet and give off a sickly shine...awful.
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