Talacre

[richie56]

Went to Talacre beach the other day. Found small amount of cash usuall bullets and rusty scrap, but no gold
All the best Richie

[Gwawrer]

Hope you are aware of the sinking sand on that beach?

[richie56]

Yes I do and very wary of it too . Do you detect there?
Many thanks Richie

[Gwawrer]

I have done in the past and someone I know found a lovely hammered from the Rhuddlan mint in a very fine condition. Another member on here detects often on Talacre.

[richie56]

Ah right are we talking about Chris? If so I met him a few weeks back very nice chap. Which beaches are best on the Wirrel or is that a secret?
Mant thanks Richie.

[Gwawrer]

Hi thats right its Chris on here. Wirral beaches are not crown foreshore

[Christoph1945]

Hi Richie, thanks for the compliment. Did you notice that the two pieces of wood near the beach entrance can no longer be seen? I had a George VI sixpence off Talacre the other week and a saw a guy get a two shilling piece off there last week. I also had a George III halfpenny some time ago.

I have also picked up ( site only ) what looks like a Neolithic Scraper, and maybe a finger bone. The chaps on here think that the bone maybe a goats finger bone but a Liverpool GP said it may be human. I will have to get both items checked out.

If we can all be patient and work past the WWII bullets and the scrap; we will start to uneartrh the hidden secrets of the beach at Talacre. A couple of weeks ago, I was talking with a chap who recovered a live grenade from the dunes at Talacre. He called in the police and had it removed by the specialists. He got a very strongly worded letter from BHP Billiton for having detected in a restricted area. You can't win em all; can you?

Chris

[Gwawrer]

Chris I have a same bone and I think I put a pic on the forum last year sometime, I was convinced that it was human too as where i was detecting was on a bend of a old ford crossing and I found info that in medival times people and their animals got swept away as they had misjudged the depth and strength of the ford. Crops on it at the moment tho!

[Christoph1945]

Hi Chris,

the small bone that you posted a picture of is very similar to the one that I found. I'm not sure who to show the darned thing to so that I can get a possitive ID on it. A general practitioner in Liverpool said that it looked human. My next stop will be to email some pics to the Welsh FLO and see what they have to say about it.

I weighed in a carton of bullets and earned myself £45.60p a couple of weeks ago and I am half way to filling an other carton. I will pm you and Richie a copy of that map I have and then you will be able to make a little sense of the bullet finds within the shifting sand. The air to ground targets were set in the dunes just west of the third Norcon Pillbox and manny of the bullets finished up on the beach ; with the shell cases falling in the dunes. The lead filled projectiles tended to stay in the general area of the Norcon Pillbox; with some migrating eastwaerds. The torn copper jackets and small pieces of copper tend to also migrate eastward and beyond the lighthouse.

I believe that coins will, perhaps, follow the same general migration rout whilst also shifting seaward. When they shift seaward; all may not be lost! From time to time; the sand removed from the Mostyn Channel is blown back onto the beach to make up for sand losses.


Chris

[Gwawrer]

I need to get down to Talacre again soon. If it was a nice evening I would be tempted. Paddling and detecting

[Christoph1945]

I was down there last weekend and spent a day on the beach; turned up a 2p and a 20p, a bag of scrap, and more bullets to add to my growing carton. Also discovered where some 50 cal copper projectile jackets settle out.

From time to time, I have been putting the CS4PI aside and using a Maplins macine to coinshoot on the dry sand. Unlike the CS4PI; the Maplins machine has some discrimination on it but it hasn't got a lot of depth. Earned me just under four quid one morning the other week.

We are hoping to get down to Talacre for Sunday, June 24th, following three days of big tides. I haven't worked out any plans for my detecting but hope to spend a full day on the beach. And possibly one early morning!

Chris

[Gwawrer]

You are tempting me for the 24th!
Everytime you write about the beach I get a yearning to go and more so with big tides!

[Christoph1945]

Hi Chris n Richie,

just posted pm's to you and you should now be able to see the WWII layout for Talacre and the Gronant.

Chris

[richie56]

Hi Chris
Many thanks for the PM of the RAF map very intresting too. Did not notice the posts had gone Chris but sure looks like the sand is on the move again!!!!
I found ten 2p pieces the other day, all in the space of a one foot hole is this classed as a Talacre hoard lol.
Only just found out today you also use the Airfield Information Exchange, have you had much info off that forum? I have sent for a book which has the Talacre range in it will let you know if its any good.
What sort of time was you thinking of going to Talacre on the 24th?
Many thanks Richie

[Christoph1945]

Hi Richie,

Is that book "Wings Across tthe Border"; or a similar title? I am hoping to travel down to Talacre on Friday, 22nd and just chill out on Saturday. Sunday, I was thinking of hitting the beach early and spending most of the day detecting. The beach carpark will be closed so I will park at the Smugglers carpark.

The AIE is a good site for information; I got a good contact for landmines and information about them. It is very unlikely that any of us will ever find a landmine at Talacre but I believe that we should have a good idea what they may look like after sixty years in the sands. I started by trying to learn what they may have looked like when they were first put in place.

I emailed the MoD under the Freedom of Information Act and they sent me a very nice email by return. The MoD confirmed that The Gronant at Talacre was mined and that it was demined in 1945. They gave me map references for the mined area but said that they were unable to inform me what typs and models of landmines were used. They also said that they could not confirm that all the mines were accounted for....neither could they confirm that any mines were unaccounted for.

As I understand it; the MicroFisch record systed is not as readable, after over 60yrs, as one would hope for.

I'm not looking for mines and don't want to find mines; but I do want to know what one looks like if ever I should uncover one. Have a peep at the Military Ordnance section under landmines. The Hawkins Mine was one that realy shook me! It just looks like an oilcan with a bracket on it.

Chris