East coast ban ??

[nevntl]

Par for the course i'm afraid lads someone will always complain. The crown estate will back the council if complaints persistently come in as with any form of hobby. In my opinion they can have the beaches in the summer its not easy to concentrate on signals when surrounded by the masses dumping crap everywhere there should be summer beach patrols for litter louts £50 a time. Dog walkers and we all encounter them have taken to putting coins in dog crap and burying it then sitting around having a chuckle when its found by a unsuspecting detectorist with no gloves on. i spotted a guy a few years ago in north wales doing what i thought was feeding gulls as i got closer noticed the birds were not interested turned out he was spreading shot blasting beads everywhere (metal swarf). when i am approached i either chat or tell them i cant hear much through my headphones and walk off generally works for me especially if Fileylad is with me ha ha ha ha ive seen him stuck for half an hour or more anyway guys be smart pick times when the masses have departed and dont leave mess or holes and if you have collected enough junk bag it up and leave it at your local council offices and politely inform them that you do it for free and dont command a beach cleaners salary of £13.000 per year

[east coast stu]

As far as i know theres no problems with digging the East coast beachs, But there is a ongoing dispute between members of the local club and the Flo regarding items handed in dug from Filey, the Flo refuses to hand items back claiming they were dug from the beach where people have no permission, One of the items was a Silver medieval brooch buckle, I have not seen the finder for a while but Filey lad or Nev will see him down there sooner or later as he only lives a couple miles away at cayton bay. there is probably not a beach in the UK where you wont get some nut claiming you cant dig there, best just to ignore them

[DAVYBFAST]

Not to mention the 8kilos of sharp metal shards and poisonus lead.
godknows howmany lumps of glass and broken bottle bottoms.
and 40 live rounds of ammo ive removed and disposed of safely from our east coast beaches this year alone!
Its not all guineas and rings............

you for got to say about the hole you dig just to pop the dog poo in and cover it. ?
well I do it cuz my kid play on the beach diging 12 foot hole lol

[m00nscanner]

if this were real !!! then all those holes left by depositors would also have to be addressed otherwise it would be victimisation towards detectorists surely, if it happened i'd just take my shovel and dig holes in protest

... you say "..would be" I put it to you that it already 'IS BE', victimisation/discrimination against Detectorists, because, ... If I were to take the Grandkids on the beach in the capacity of Grandfather and dig huge deep holes, leave them, and return in the capacity of Detectorist and proceed to scan that same spoil that we left, for any goodies, then I have to obtain a Permit, and if not, I'm breaking the law. If that's not DISCRIMINATION against Detecorists, then I don't know what is!!
Keith (Rant over)

[FileyLad]

Stu, I know a little about it and think its disgusting! I bet the flo did not say this BEFORE he handed it over did they! It's just as bad as theft.....

[Nailman]

It looks like I defiantly meet two NOT IN MY BACK YARD TYPES
I bet if they lost a ring in their garden they would immediately look for someone with a metal detector.
Returning to the east coast in Sept so I can continue to dig tin cans without looking over my shoulder. B-)

[FUBAR]

Well said Janner.

[Escudo]

Same old story . The inconsiderate will get us stopped . It is the same with club sites . They will not learn !!

[oldartefact]

I ama an avid detectorist ... beach tecting is great and so is land... but to protect our sport i think that we need to have better justification than just observing "kids are allowed to dig holes in the beach so why cant we".
We should be coming up with more considered and justifiable reasons like:
* We NEVER leave holes on the beach.. we all carry a crown permit ... and all have public liability insurance...
* We do a free clean up job for the council, and the public... maybe we could ask the council to install scrap bins at the heads of popular beaches that we can put our scrap in ... with all money raised going to RNLI
* We are the eyes and ears of the community..
* We are not money grabbers and our finds are regularly returned to their owners...
* We are considerate and never dig or scan near to families enjoying the beach.
I for one think that the above reasons are much more convincing arguments than saying "kids dig holes so why cant we"
HH John

[clint]

Yep Oldfart is totally correct..until if EVER a legal notice is served to say you can`t detect then you legally can..anyone trying to stop you otherwise is acting illegally and is probably a nutter.Just don`t give them the ammo...

regards

Clint

[oldartefact]

well in that case i will consider the following...
leave holes as kids do it
detect around family groups as i am within my rights
not report gold finds to the police "its finders keepers"
leave the junk on the beach as its not mine...

Really folks this is a complete joke ....
as my kid bro said after defecating on the neighbours front lawn
"dogs do it so why cant I??" true story btw

all we need to do as responsibkle detectorists is to be responsible!!!
its simples ....
happy to hear from any detractors to my approach!!!!

and as for giving excuses for driving a car ... maybe not to our generation ... but for the generations to come ... i think they we may be judged for messing up this pristine planet!!! "you" wont have to give excuses ,,,, fair play on that one ... but your ghost may have some very difficult questions to answer!!! Happy days!!!

[FileyLad]

sand has a very strange property which is when a hole is filled back in it will still be A HOLE, as displacement is in action there will always be a hole. i think as long as the effort it made to fill it then all is good.

FL

[FULLTIMER]

I think a couple of things need clearing up here, for those that don't already know not all beaches are owned by the crown so are not covered by the crown foreshore permit, some are controlled by local councils and others like those around the North Norfolk coast from Holkham round to Weybourne are owned by the crown but leased to Natural England ( or whatever they call themselves these day's) who have already put a ban on detecting on these beaches. Others are owned / controlled by the National Trust and a few by the Duchy of Cornwall not sure about their views on detecting. So there you have it Not all beaches are covered by the crown foreshore permit, even if shown as being crown foreshore land on their own maps.

[oldartefact]

I really dongt care whether the beaches are controlled by a crown permit or not...
The point I am making is that we should care that they are controlled by the public...
and that we should give due consideration for this Fact ...

[FULLTIMER]

The point I was making was that just because someone has a CE permit it might not actually give them the right to be detecting on the beach in the first place, as for responsible detecting then I assume that is the norm in most cases ,I certainly tend to treat the beach much the same as any other permission ,ie backfilling holes getting rid of the rubbish etc, , what I don't like is Natural Englands approach with their blanket ban on detecting basically on the grounds of health & safety,