XP Déus V3.2 on Steroids! New Settings?

[Fisher1266X]

Hi All,

After initial outings with the Déus V3.2 I was a little dubious as to its performance.
My partners Gold Maxx Power appeared to outperform it!

However, I've since tried operating the machine well outside the advised parameters.
I manually set the GB at varying levels between 70 and 85 with the sensitivity fixed at 99.
Using these settings appear to have reversed the above GMP v Déus scenario.

It now takes me twice as long to search the same length of ground as my DB!!!
The Déus is literally picking out every signal available.
Some of the targets appeared to be virtually on the surface.
Running the pro-pointer over the area showed that the target was actually deeper.

If you do use these settings be aware that you might have to change them as you reach other parts of the field :g62:

I'll post the results of our latest outing this afternoon/tonight

HH

Paul

[splatter]

Paul
which program were you using and at what frequency?

cheers
simon

[Fisher1266X]

Paul
which program were you using and at what frequency?

cheers
simon

Hi Simon,

The conditions were:

Déus V3.2 - small coil
GMP mode mainly, swithching to unmodified 'Fast' mode when needed.
GB manual set at 70 to 85 depending on feedback.
Sensitivity fixed at 99.
Mainly 18khz, the odd occaision; 12khz just to see what happens.
All other settings as factory set.

Ground conditions were freshly ploughed, rolled and seeded

HTH

Paul

[Eli]

Evening,
were you manually adjusting the ground balance to match exactly the actual GB reading?
e.g 78/78 or were you setting the GB above the actual GB reading e.g. 78/85?
Ive found if I match the ground balance to pretty much any number in the 70's it just gets too erratic so I adjust the GB to low to mid 80's and it settles down. Would having the GB set greater than the actual GB reading have any negative on the performance?
If that makes sense!

[Henrikras]

Same here like ELI.... Low GB numbers and I still stay man.GB 85-87. (e.g. 82/87) Don't know why, but notice that the mineralizations strenght (right side at the display), stay from middle and down if I did that. Allso notice that high sens. with these GB problems, gives even more problems. Thats why I stayed with sens. 90 or if the GB was very low, I did go down to sens.85-87.
In these case Auto GB was good, If the soil made my Deus stay in GB 85-90, but If it went lower than 85, the problems came back. (The Big coil / GMP factory ).

[Fisher1266X]

Hi Eli & Henrikras,

Officially, you're supposed to 'pump' the Déus when GB is set to manual.
This has GOT to be away from any metal and other possible interference sources such as other detectors etc.

The small field I was in has SO many iron signals it was impossible to calibrate the GB using the 'pump' method.
I just set it as low as I dared (70) and tried it at that setting. I upped it to 75 and then 80 just to see what happened. Nothing seemed to change much so I dropped it down to 70/75.
It never appeared to be unstable and the mineralisation bar never showed any reading whatsoever!

If I come across a field that is low in ferrous tergets I'll try the 'pump' method and see what happens.

As I say, using it at GB 70+ and Sensitivity at 99 it just seemed to pick up every non-ferrous target! The horse brass came up from a measured 18"

Paul

[MetalMonkey]

This might be a Dumb Ass question but why not use auto tracking all the time ? Please feel free to rip me to pirces on this but I use it frequently and seem to do ok but I'm no expert I'm learning all the time

[Fisher1266X]

This might be a Dumb Ass question but why not use auto tracking all the time ? Please feel free to rip me to pirces on this but I use it frequently and seem to do ok but I'm no expert I'm learning all the time

Hi MM,

Nigel at Regtons says that he never uses 'Tracking'. He always tunes GB manually by using the 'Pumping' method.
I used to use 'Tracking' nearly all the time. It's only since updating to V3.2 that I feel that manually adjusting GB has improved the Déus' performance.
I think if you follow the finds posts I've made recently you'll agree that the Déus on manual GB is working for me!
Use whatever you feel comfortable with, I'm sure you'll come up trumps

HH

Paul

[Fusion]

Q:"but why not use auto tracking all the time?"
A: Auto-tracking doesn't know what is ground, what is 'loads-of-nails', it will just track to the nail-filled ground, which will result in an incorrect GB value, and loss of depth.
In practice, I don't think setting GB precisely is that important in heavy iron-contaminated ground, the iron is the dominant thing that stops you finding things, not the ground signal.

[MetalMonkey]

Whats the advantages of using manual GB rather than Tracking. The reason I use tracking is that I sometimes forget to check the control box numbers as I get too involved listening to the various tones and find Tracking is always near enough on the ball

[Fisher1266X]

Q:"but why not use auto tracking all the time?"
A: Auto-tracking doesn't know what is ground, what is 'loads-of-nails', it will just track to the nail-filled ground, which will result in an incorrect GB value, and loss of depth.
In practice, I don't think setting GB precisely is that important in heavy iron-contaminated ground, the iron is the dominant thing that stops you finding things, not the ground signal.

Agreed! The area I've been searching recently is absolutely stuffed with small ferrous signals!
However, the Déus has easily coped with this...........http://www.flickr.com/photos/80501866@N ... 289126635/
My finds from yesterday

Paul

[MetalMonkey]

Thanks guys another hard experimental day out again tomorrow, here's me thinking I was getting my head around it all

[Eli]

I've been 'pumping' and getting 73-75 and then just manually setting GB to 90, seems to be working fine and on a very irony site.
Manually Setting Below 87 and it chatters bad.
Manual says leave at 90 if low mineral contamination

[Fusion]

" [the] manual says leave [GB] at 90 if low mineral contamination"
There's no ground I can think of in the UK that has low mineral contamination, maybe a dry beach might be close, (I'm not a beach detectorist). Florida has areas that are low-min, because it's a giant sand spit, with just a thin layer of soil in the top few inches.
Experience will teach you what a 'good guess' GB value would be, perhaps err on the higher side (larger number).

[Eli]

" [the] manual says leave [GB] at 90 if low mineral contamination"
There's no ground I can think of in the UK that has low mineral contamination, maybe a dry beach might be close, (I'm not a beach detectorist). Florida has areas that are low-min, because it's a giant sand spit, with just a thin layer of soil in the top few inches.
Experience will teach you what a 'good guess' GB value would be, perhaps err on the higher side (larger number).

Sorry, I was referring to what the manual says about the 'minerslisation bar' on the right of the display, if it reads low on the graph no adjustment of GB is required.
I'm no expert just doing what thd manual says