Ok hi all....
I know this is a long shot and am not expecting miracles, but i know there are some knowledgable people on here so here goes....
Today i found a tiny hammered, pretty poor condition...
My camera is rubbish for close ups and to be honest all you would see is a small silver disc..
I am going to attempt at explaining it from the little i can see with a magnifying glass..(magnifying usb camera on order ;-) )
Size...approx 17mm diameter at its widest and approx 16mm at its smallest...
To give a better picture it sits comfortably inside a new 5p piece with just a tiny amount of the 5p rim showing.
It is wafer thin
On the reverse side (tails to me)
There is a definate shield which takes up most of the coin and is split into 4 segments...
In the bottom right segment is a cross.... not an equal cross but more of a crusifix cross.
Directly above that segment is what appears to be the head of a Dragon and partial body
The 2 left side segments are a bit buckled and very worn with nothing to be seen with an ordinary magnifying glass
On the other side (heads to me)
No facial features visible with mag glass, there are some letters and numbers but cant make them out, except for a number 8
Around the edge are the dots...its slightly off centre and as said very worn....
Now i dont realy expect anyone to id this but if you do then you are definately on my xmas list...
Otherwise i will have to wait for my magnifying camera to arrive..
Thanks for looking.....
Have looked at lizzie half groats but the shield doesnt match up....the bottom right segement of this one shows a cross......some of charles 1st are looking similar but will probaly need to wait for the camera or get someone to id it for me....
Tiny hammered..Tough ID task...no pics
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Blackadder43
Not the best pics in the world but it might help
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Blackadder43
Hmmm, You thought the same as me Jeffers.....but......someone on another forum seems to think its a James I Halfgroat circa 1603
I am trying to pick his brains now as to how he came up with that based on those pics.....
will keep u posted....
I am trying to pick his brains now as to how he came up with that based on those pics.....
will keep u posted....
Blackadder43, I have had a look through my books and find that there were only two monarchs who used a quartered flat topped shield where both the upper left and lower right quarters were also quartered. These were James 1 and Charles 1.
In both cases the upper right quater was home to a rampent lion caged.
I have not been able to find any coin with numbers on the "head side" and think that instead of an 8 it is a B from "BRIT:FRA:ET:HIB".
At 17mm this could be:
1: a James 1 1604 6p
2: a James 1 1621-4 6p
3: a Charles 1 1631-9 6p
4: a Charles 1 1638-49 3p
5: a Charles 1 1642-8 1s
Difficult to pick one due to condition
Graeme S
In both cases the upper right quater was home to a rampent lion caged.
I have not been able to find any coin with numbers on the "head side" and think that instead of an 8 it is a B from "BRIT:FRA:ET:HIB".
At 17mm this could be:
1: a James 1 1604 6p
2: a James 1 1621-4 6p
3: a Charles 1 1631-9 6p
4: a Charles 1 1638-49 3p
5: a Charles 1 1642-8 1s
Difficult to pick one due to condition
Graeme S
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Blackadder43
Top marks Graeme.......you have narrowed it down perfectly..........It turns out (with the help of a microscope) to be James 1st Half Groat.....about 1603/4 ish i think
This is the one i found in the earth thats piled up around the edge of the field due to the drainage ditches being cleaned out every few years.....
Again thanks for your help, shows you have the passion and the bug for this fascinating hobby.......
If you look on the link bar on the left hand side here
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you see the members finds gallery.........sign up to that (you can use the same username and password to make it easier)....and start an online library of your finds........
This is the one i found in the earth thats piled up around the edge of the field due to the drainage ditches being cleaned out every few years.....
Again thanks for your help, shows you have the passion and the bug for this fascinating hobby.......
If you look on the link bar on the left hand side here
<--------------------------
you see the members finds gallery.........sign up to that (you can use the same username and password to make it easier)....and start an online library of your finds........
Blackadder43
The 1603 Half Groat and the 1603 Penny were nearly identical, the difference being on the "head side". The Groat has "II" behind the bust and the Penny has "I", both are silver.
Once I have something more interesting than a new 2p from my back garden I will post my finds.
Thanks
Graeme S
The 1603 Half Groat and the 1603 Penny were nearly identical, the difference being on the "head side". The Groat has "II" behind the bust and the Penny has "I", both are silver.
Once I have something more interesting than a new 2p from my back garden I will post my finds.
Thanks
Graeme S
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