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River Permission

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what Permission do you need to go detecting in them ?
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Hi, you need permission from the landowner on the side of the river you are detecting. In theory there will be an imaginary line down the centre of the river which will define the area of the riverbed over which the landowner has rights, if the land on different sides of the river is owned by different landowners you will need permission from both, depending how far into the river you go or if there are islands in the middle of the river, you wish to acess. You will also need permission from the landowner to gain access over their land to access the river. Hope that helps ::g
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You need to ask about riparian rights, but don't hold your breath about a farmer actually knowing what that means. The same applies to gold panning and is basically the same idea as bank rights for fishing, each landowner owns their side, but a lot don't realise that is the case and think the river belongs to the Environment Agency.. The difficulty is with proving which side of the imaginary mid-stream line the find was made, as any evidence of holes dug will soon be washed away. Just to whet your appetite about what can be found in rivers, have a look at this.

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Think different rules may possibly apply to tidal stretches ..
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I'm not sure about tidal stretches, you definitely need a licence for the river Thames foreshore in London.

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There are certainly differences when it comes to doing things in or, on the river as anglers and canoeists know. The River Wye has a right of navigation so you don't need a licence to use a canoe on it like you do on most other rivers, but it's always best to check with local authorities about odd local restrictions which may apply in places like the Duchy of Cornwall and Duchy of Lancaster which probably have their own rules.

Another thing worth remembering is that the landscape changes over time, especially with coastal erosion and river courses rarely remain the same, so what you see now will almost certainly not be how the Romans or Normans saw the river. King John's treasure is one of the most famous stories of lost treasure in the country, but if the story is true and he lost his crown jewels and 3,000 men when his baggage train was trapped in the Wash, it will now be several miles miles inland.
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timesearch wrote:I'm not sure about tidal stretches, you definitely need a licence for the river Thames foreshore in London.

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal ... ames-only/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There are certainly differences when it comes to doing things in or, on the river as anglers and canoeists know. The River Wye has a right of navigation so you don't need a licence to use a canoe on it like you do on most other rivers, but it's always best to check with local authorities about odd local restrictions which may apply in places like the Duchy of Cornwall and Duchy of Lancaster which probably have their own rules.

Another thing worth remembering is that the landscape changes over time, especially with coastal erosion and river courses rarely remain the same, so what you see now will almost certainly not be how the Romans or Normans saw the river. King John's treasure is one of the most famous stories of lost treasure in the country, but if the story is true and he lost his crown jewels and 3,000 men when his baggage train was trapped in the Wash, it will now be several miles miles inland.
Rivers are like snakes writhing their way over the landscape ... oxbows form ... which become lakes ... abd get silted up becoming land.. over the years humans alter the course of rivers for a variety of reasons... so over thousands of years the river landscape is unrecognisable... however clues are often left indicating their old courses ... onec such clue being field boundaries ... I'll try and get an image up showing what I mean.
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Post by pommy »

Thanks for all your information your help is appreciated
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