Advice for begginers beach detector and tools.

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Advice for begginers beach detector and tools.

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Own a scope 3mx, spade and pinpointer. I'm moving towards the coast and would like to buy something that's going to be good for uk beaches. I'm not an experienced detector as I can only get out when my muscles allow unfortunately, however this isn't going to stop me getting out and joining in the fun.

I know little about detectors other than they vary a lot in price and that cscope 4pi seems a not bad priced one, although I've seen a few varying reviews about it. The only other detector I heard of was the Garrett at pro, although I believe this is a bit more money and more complicated.

Also I've seen a few different sand scoops about, is there any particular one you'd recommend,,,ideally anything that makes life easier on muscles would be a welcome addition.

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Post by Boandtia »

I use the AT Pro, had it about 4 years, it is a great machine on the beach. It is not complicated to learn at all, and best of all waterproof. Well worth the extra money.

For digging I use a stainless steel scoop, with long wooden handle, you can find them on the forum auction site.

A pinpointer for me is a must, amazing how you cannot spot some coins in the sand, it speeds up your finds recovery = more time detecting.

I also use a harness, takes the weight off your arms, and keeps your detector out the sand when recovering your finds.

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Boandtia wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:32 pm I use the AT Pro, had it about 4 years, it is a great machine on the beach. It is not complicated to learn at all, and best of all waterproof. Well worth the extra money.

For digging I use a stainless steel scoop, with long wooden handle, you can find them on the forum auction site.

A pinpointer for me is a must, amazing how you cannot spot some coins in the sand, it speeds up your finds recovery = more time detecting.

I also use a harness, takes the weight off your arms, and keeps your detector out the sand when recovering your finds.

HH
Thanks for your response, very helpful,,,, just checking would you recommend the the garrett At pro over the cscope 4pi for beach work? Will the AT pro discriminate on the beach?......Also, do you recommend any particular harness?

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Post by fred »

the suitability of individual detectors will largely depend upon your budget and exactly where you intend to detect. A harness really shouldn't be needed as both the machines that you have mentioned are relatively light and the C-scope can be hip mounted anyway. You could search this forum for general advice about beach hunting kit. ::g
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Post by yellow »

Hi,

If you have issues with muscles etc, then I personally wouldn't recommend the cs4pi.
I've owned one in the past and if you like digging what feels like ten feet for a rusty nail, then please do..they are good sensitive machines but with no discrimination apart from a slight tone change...but if your body limits how much you can dig, and you would like to last as long as you can, in my opinion I'd stay away from it..

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yellow wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:56 pm Hi,

If you have issues with muscles etc, then I personally wouldn't recommend the cs4pi.
I've owned one in the past and if you like digging what feels like ten feet for a rusty nail, then please do..they are good sensitive machines but with no discrimination apart from a slight tone change...but if your body limits how much you can dig, and you would like to last as long as you can, in my opinion I'd stay away from it..

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Thanks yellow...

Yes my muscles are a problem and it does limit my ability, so it is a concern to me. Do you have any idea what detector I should be looking at for the beach, ideally not too complicated and not going to have me digging everything, so something that can discriminate ( is that the right word?).

I've heard the the Garrett AT pro is not bad, but then I've heard some say it goes a bit wappy on wet sand/ hot rocks or something. It Would be around the North Yorkshire beaches.

Budget....well if it's a case of waiting to afford the right machine then I'll wait.....but I was hoping not to spend more than £500,,,but if I need to save so be it.

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Evolution 360 scoop and a £2.50 broom handle.Pin pointer of some description Brilliant
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Post by Mega B »

Before you go out and part with a fair amount of money on a beach setup,i would suggest you sit down and think this one through.What i mean by this its all right folks suggesting what equipment one requires,but as you are having major health issues with your muscles a stainless steel sandscoop is certainly not one that i would recommend,its not because they dont do the job,its the fact that they weight a massive amount.

Why dont you just try your current C-Scope on the dry sand in areas like ice cream stalls and at the top of the beach,this then will allow you use of machine that you have all ready use before rather than going down the route of getting special detectors for the job and then finding out after all the expense you cannot carry on due to your health.

Please note i am not a kill joy but looking through this one in a methodical way,beach detecting with a massive stainless scoop detecting in the surf or digging for targets deep down can even have a effect on a totally fit person.

When you have finally moved to the coast then try your existing detector on the dry sand and buy a cheap plastic sand scoop which weighs basically nothing,but a stainless steel full length sandscoop can weight the same or infact in some cases more than a detector can.I notice mine and i am relatively fit.

Of course this is only my opinion and thoughts and yes i do have special machines for the beach including TDI Pro,Crossbow Pulse,Mirage,DFX,Nexus MP and when you have a scoop you are aware that you have been out beach detecting,of course i wish you luck in your quest to find the right machine and proper equipment but it does want some thinking through though.
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Post by wuyang »

Mega B, you are right......and I think that's what I will do.....test the water so to speak. I was ideally wanting an upright sand scoop to avoid bending too much, but I get your point. Are there any aluminium that would be up to the job,,,,presuming they maybe lighter.
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Post by Koala »

Probably need a bit more information.


Different beaches require different equipment.


There is a big difference between shingle beach the mud flats.
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Post by wuyang »

Koala wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:22 pm Probably need a bit more information.


Different beaches require different equipment.


There is a big difference between shingle beach the mud flats.
Sand beach.....not shingle, Scarborough, Filey, Whitby....North Yorkshire.


Hope that helps
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Post by Koala »

wuyang wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:33 pm
Koala wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:22 pm Probably need a bit more information.


Different beaches require different equipment.


There is a big difference between shingle beach the mud flats.
Sand beach.....not shingle, Scarborough, Filey, Whitby....North Yorkshire.


Hope that helps
It does ::g

I can't help not detected that coast.

A few on here detect that way. Sure someone will chip in with some advise shortly.
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Post by Boandtia »

I only detect beaches and the sea, on the sand the AT Pro has only one small problem it does not like dry sand laid over wet sand very much. Just have to turn the sensitivity down a bit. The discrimination is great, I never have to dig a ring pull, beer bottle top, or rusty coins, saving hours of digging rubbish targets. The easy swing bungie is great with the AT Pro if you have muscle problems like me and gives you much better control over your swinging action, allowing me to detect for several hours without trouble. I have two stainless steel sand scoops, one is very light ideal for the dry and wet sand, no good for shingle type beaches.
As for cost, the AT Pro has paid for itself many times over in coins, gold and silver, and it is WATERPROOF unlike some other beach machines.

There is no perfect answer to your question, I am just explaining what I use and why.

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Post by wuyang »

Boandtia wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:43 pm I only detect beaches and the sea, on the sand the AT Pro has only one small problem it does not like dry sand laid over wet sand very much. Just have to turn the sensitivity down a bit. The discrimination is great, I never have to dig a ring pull, beer bottle top, or rusty coins, saving hours of digging rubbish targets. The easy swing bungie is great with the AT Pro if you have muscle problems like me and gives you much better control over your swinging action, allowing me to detect for several hours without trouble. I have two stainless steel sand scoops, one is very light ideal for the dry and wet sand, no good for shingle type beaches.
As for cost, the AT Pro has paid for itself many times over in coins, gold and silver, and it is WATERPROOF unlike some other beach machines.

There is no perfect answer to your question, I am just explaining what I use and why.

HH
Big thank you....any idea which make model your lighter sand scoop is?
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Post by beachboy70 »

Hi wuyang. Some of the stainless steel scoops are pretty heavy but there is some lighter scoops made that you can buy from you know where for about £55 ish they are a bit lighter than many some even come with handle, i know a few people who have them and they work ok on the sand, some beaches you will need a spade also if its too stony , i use both just depends on the beach. beachboy70 ::g
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