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Beach Bullet ID (ID'd WW2American .30 carbine cartridge )

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Is this a 9mm? what sort of age could it be?

It was found just next to the beach on a grass verge that is part of the beach and was only a couple of inches down, found with my Garrett Ace 250 on relic mode.

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Not sure if 43 relates to 1943. One of the Military experts will be along to id properly. With the photo, one of the head diameter is always useful. Did notice the military arrow is not visible , possibly different country.
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Dave The Slave wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:20 pm Not sure if 43 relates to 1943. One of the Military experts will be along to id properly. With the photo, one of the head diameter is always useful. Did notice the military arrow is not visible , possibly different country.
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Sorry I forgot to picture it the other way oops, thanks.
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Evansville Ordnance Plant (Chrysler) 1943
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t ... sler/16564
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I think that's either 9mm or, at a push .38 calibre (using calipers on the screen isn't that accurate :D ). A .45 would be just under 11.5mm across. ::g

Just read up and the plant that used the EC mark (Evansville Crysler) made .45 and .30 carbine ammunition during WW2. I guess yours must be the latter but I'd really need a proper measurement across the base to work it out or persuade me to investigate further. :D
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Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut »

It’s too thin for a .45ACP, and the rim ‘groove’ is too thin for a .45, too. This has the right base thickness for a crumbled down .30 carbine, used in the M1 carbine rifle. ::g
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_Carbine

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fred wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:07 pm I think that's either 9mm or, at a push .38 calibre (using calipers on the screen isn't that accurate :D ). A .45 would be just under 11.5mm across. ::g

Just read up and the plant that used the EC mark (Evansville Crysler) made .45 and .30 carbine ammunition during WW2. I guess yours must be the latter but I'd really need a proper measurement across the base to work it out or persuade me to investigate further. :D
It's about 8.5mm/9mm across the base.
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ashjacko wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:21 pm
fred wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:07 pm I think that's either 9mm or, at a push .38 calibre (using calipers on the screen isn't that accurate :D ). A .45 would be just under 11.5mm across. ::g

Just read up and the plant that used the EC mark (Evansville Crysler) made .45 and .30 carbine ammunition during WW2. I guess yours must be the latter but I'd really need a proper measurement across the base to work it out or persuade me to investigate further. :D
It's about 8.5mm/9mm across the base.
That clinches it as an American .30 carbine cartridge. ::g
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fred wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:44 pm
ashjacko wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:21 pm
fred wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:07 pm I think that's either 9mm or, at a push .38 calibre (using calipers on the screen isn't that accurate :D ). A .45 would be just under 11.5mm across. ::g

Just read up and the plant that used the EC mark (Evansville Crysler) made .45 and .30 carbine ammunition during WW2. I guess yours must be the latter but I'd really need a proper measurement across the base to work it out or persuade me to investigate further. :D
It's about 8.5mm/9mm across the base.
That clinches it as an American .30 carbine cartridge. ::g
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