Help with ID of huge round, (not live)

[Machinist]

... like trhe guy who brought the bomb home and asked if its live ... mistakes happen!!!!!

Or the one we had with a large shell on his sink unit pictured next to the a hammer he had obviously been using to clean off the rust

Ray

[oldartefact]

... like trhe guy who brought the bomb home and asked if its live ... mistakes happen!!!!!

Or the one we had with a large shell on his sink unit pictured next to the a hammer he had obviously been using to clean off the rust

Ray

Not forgetting the guy who put a bomb in his car took it home ... and ended up having half the village evacuated!!! Rule of thumb being .. if it looks like a bomb... it is a bomb!

[Wansdyke44]

I called them last week to see what Was the right thing to do .. the switchboard 'told' me to hand it in... I asked if I should contact them if I get another ..the reply was no just take them to front desk ..I hadn't got a chance to take it hence my neighbour organising a pick up ..or a seizure as the police note it ..I was advised the shell still contains explosive and is illegal to possess without the correct licence
I hear what tour saying but I was going on official recommendation from the plod

That is not correct at all. .303 blanks are perfectly legal to own live. The 'explosive', as they like to call it, again, IS legal to own in a blank cartridge.
Black powder is illegal and needs an explosives licence, but it would have to be a very old .303 to have BP in it. Even if a .303 blank does indeed have BP in it, it would still be legal to own regardless.

Simon

Which is what I'd already said...
Then there are those who can't distinguish between a bullet/cartridge or bomb... I think this thread needs locking or restarting. Obviously people are talking at cross purposes and getting confused.
W.

[smudge.g]

Blimey, some interesting comments following my initial post. However, i did follow up to say that there is a hole in the round and it seems to be hollow/empty inside. The cartridge is therefore safe but the bullet (presumably AP) is illegal to possess and the whole thing is off to police station tomorrow.

[oldartefact]

Blimey, some interesting comments following my initial post. However, i did follow up to say that there is a hole in the round and it seems to be hollow/empty inside. The cartridge is therefore safe but the bullet (presumably AP) is illegal to possess and the whole thing is off to police station tomorrow.

Thats great news ... but it was your title that created shock waves.. HOUG ROUND IS IT LIVE? As responsible detectorists it is our duty to leave items insitu if there is any doubt regarding their status, particularly when the item is large. Leave insitu and then call the police... thats the way to go.

Back in 1966 i dug up a similar round from the end of our garden ... 65 mallard avenue RAF Lyneham, you can view the site on google maps ... i was only 7 at the time... and I remember my parents throwing a wobbly when we plonked it on the kitchen table ... we were digging to get to Australia, though we gave up after 24 inches!!!

[smudge.g]

appreciate your wisdom and wise words (and those of others). This was my first full round find (and guess may have have been my last!)

[alloverover]

appreciate your wisdom and wise words (and those of others). This was my first full round find (and guess may have have been my last!)

Dont worry smudge, unless you hit it with a hammer or put it on a fire it wouldnt go off mate, you cant call the bomb squad or police everytime you dig up a round mate

[oldartefact]

appreciate your wisdom and wise words (and those of others). This was my first full round find (and guess may have have been my last!)

Dont worry smudge, unless you hit it with a hammer or put it on a fire it wouldnt go off mate, you cant call the bomb squad or police everytime you dig up a round mate

So if you find something that looks like a bomb would you call the police or simply dig the thing up and take it home? Surely it has to be the case that one should be safe rather than sorry... if someone wants to blow themselves up thats okay... but i take exception when other innocent people get it.
Lets remember this years boat race was nearly called off due to an unexploded munition found on the foreshore... they could have just chucked the thing back in the water, but they called out the bomb squad ... it was entirely the right thing to do.
At the end of the day its all about commonsense is it not? If in doubt read this!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -trip.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... cambridge/

this is why you dont mess with unexploded bombs
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/03/world ... explosion/

When the guy from the army tells me "Old explosives can be quite unstable" I for one would believe him, hammer or no hammer, fire or no fire.

[alloverover]

appreciate your wisdom and wise words (and those of others). This was my first full round find (and guess may have have been my last!)

Dont worry smudge, unless you hit it with a hammer or put it on a fire it wouldnt go off mate, you cant call the bomb squad or police everytime you dig up a round mate

So if you find something that looks like a bomb would you call the police or simply dig the thing up and take it home? Surely it has to be the case that one should be safe rather than sorry... if someone wants to blow themselves up thats okay... but i take exception when other innocent people get it.
Lets remember this years boat race was nearly called off due to an unexploded munition found on the foreshore... they could have just chucked the thing back in the water, but they called out the bomb squad ... it was entirely the right thing to do.
At the end of the day its all about commonsense is it not? If in doubt read this!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -trip.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... cambridge/

this is why you dont mess with unexploded bombs
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/03/world ... explosion/

When the guy from the army tells me "Old explosives can be quite unstable" I for one would believe him, hammer or no hammer, fire or no fire.

You seem to be getting confused between the words "BOMB" and " RIFLE ROUND" oa, both the items talked about in the post were "RIFLE ROUNDS" , one was for a large caliber rifle and the other was a blank

[oldartefact]

There is no confusion what so ever ... but to avoid any confusion lets just call the things explosives ...
The detectorist in the article found a 20mm shell, took it home, and they evacuated the street (avenue, close, lane ... call it what you will)...
And with respect even a humble rifle round MUST be treated with the greatest respect and caution .. we should all remember that very very few detectorists are practically or legally qualified to handle explosives (of any kind ... including rifle rounds) ... the advice is ... always has been and always will be to leave the thing where it is. Mark the spot and report to the police. The advice is to never take the thing home, its not worth the risk, no matter however small one guesses the risk to be.

Not quite sure how the title of the thread has moved to (not live) .. I am just hoping that its not due to any of the advive given by some responders to this thread. To be clear any substance or device that is capable of exploding (eg. if put in a fire or hit by a hammer) IS LIVE by definition.

[oldartefact]

It is worth everyone ready the attached thread ..
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=10472

[jeff82]

I think after the info and safety aspects of the discussion here I will be following artifacts advice and filling the hole back in with the munition ..and marking it .. my permissions r all located on and around a ww2 camp that was host to 10000+ men .. so I dig 303's and 12 gauge shells on nearly every outing .. after all the back and forth in here I am appreciative of the eye opener
Regards