Scoops

[swansea jack]

Hi Gents
Any body have any experience with this scoop, looks a lot lighter the some
https://focusspeed.com/bert-van-heerde- ... ch-scoops/

[SimplexSimonx]

Hi - I have no experience of these scoops - but, I watch a lot of youtubers on the beach with different scoops (and I use my own!) - and my experience is that it's difficult to have your cake and eat it. The downside of lightness is structural weakness. So, if you're sure you're never going to get rough with your scoop (e.g. kicking it, to break into hardpack) and are only going to use it on soft sand - then one of these is probably a good idea.

I use a scoop that is built like a tank (Evolution Pro type R) - it's (a little) heavier, but I can use it to dig into stony chalk/clay and can kick it hard all day long with no ill effects.

Also - those scoops you link to may not be stainless (which for me is a must).

I guess you need to decide which is more important for you - toughness/durability/price/weight.

[SimplexSimonx]

I've just looked in more detail at those Motley scoops - they are stainless (of some grade or other - not all grades are suitable to marine use) and only about 0.5lb lighter than the Evolution type R (which is marine grade stainless).

[swansea jack]

Hi - I have no experience of these scoops - but, I watch a lot of youtubers on the beach with different scoops (and I use my own!) - and my experience is that it's difficult to have your cake and eat it. The downside of lightness is structural weakness. So, if you're sure you're never going to get rough with your scoop (e.g. kicking it, to break into hardpack) and are only going to use it on soft sand - then one of these is probably a good idea.

I use a scoop that is built like a tank (Evolution Pro type R) - it's (a little) heavier, but I can use it to dig into stony chalk/clay and can kick it hard all day long with no ill effects.

Also - those scoops you link to may not be stainless (which for me is a must).

I guess you need to decide which is more important for you - toughness/durability/price/weight.

All very valid points, I believe they are Stainless, and I was worried that the handle might collapse under pressure. I spoke to a guy at the beach this week using the Evolution Pro and it looked very impressive as you say built like a tank. If I get one maybe I'll call it Sherman or Churchill lol
Cheers for sharing you experience with the Evolution pro

[Erik_the_Viking]

The scoops do look pretty impressive for beaches, but they cost such a lot of money.
I'm contemplating a budget alternative.
How about the sand being shovelled into a garden sieve and then being sieved away to release the traget? Should work shouldn't it?

[maylandmanta]

The scoops do look pretty impressive for beaches, but they cost such a lot of money.
I'm contemplating a budget alternative.
How about the sand being shovelled into a garden sieve and then being sieved away to release the traget? Should work shouldn't it?

Time consuming , something else to carry (you'll need a spade as well as the sieve ) and a killer on the back when you get to my age.

[SimplexSimonx]

The scoops do look pretty impressive for beaches, but they cost such a lot of money.
I'm contemplating a budget alternative.
How about the sand being shovelled into a garden sieve and then being sieved away to release the traget? Should work shouldn't it?

Haha
When I started I balked at the cost of buying one so I made my own out of an Ikea stainless cutlery pot and a bit of an old oak fencepost. It didn't take me long to decide to get a 'proper' one!

[Erik_the_Viking]

Time consuming , something else to carry (you'll need a spade as well as the sieve ) and a killer on the back when you get to my age.

Agreed. But for starting out, when you have young conscripts in tow, not so much of a problem.

[Erik_the_Viking]

Haha
When I started I balked at the cost of buying one so I made my own out of an Ikea stainless cutlery pot and a bit of an old oak fencepost. It didn't take me long to decide to get a 'proper' one!

Quite ingenious, shame it didn't work out. Which bit didn't work? I'm guessing the handle and/or where it joined. I have a spare, metal loft hatch handle that I could probably quite securely attach to something like that. If the sieve doesn't work out....

[SimplexSimonx]

Quite ingenious, shame it didn't work out. Which bit didn't work? I'm guessing the handle and/or where it joined. I have a spare, metal loft hatch handle that I could probably quite securely attach to something like that. If the sieve doesn't work out....

Joining the handle was tricky, but the pot turned out to be the wrong shape really, with a rolled lip that didn't dig in very well - ok for soft, dry sand but hard work in wet or gritty/stony stuff.

[Charliechap]

The truth is, buy the best one .
If not, you will only end up spending more in the long run .

If not now, save up and buy it when you can .

[Erik_the_Viking]

Joining the handle was tricky, but the pot turned out to be the wrong shape really, with a rolled lip that didn't dig in very well - ok for soft, dry sand but hard work in wet or gritty/stony stuff.

Yes, I can see that could be an issue. I'm wondering about a cheese grater, with the rolled edge cut off, and the handle cut off, and a mesh fitted there instead. Otherwise it's the garden sieve!

[Digiffys]

Sand scoops have to be as tough as spades,they really get battered about. Sand is very heavy when wet and couple this with stones in it as well they would mangle even the best homemade attempts honestly,you'll discover that pretty quickly. The Evolutions really take all the punishment,there as tough as nails and worth every penny
Ps just a thought why not just use a a spade for now and get a proper scoop as and when , a little mini spade still works well.

[sweepstick47]

I too would recommend buying a quality scoop and using a little ingenuity to fashion an equally strong handle yourself. That is, if the budget doesn't allow a purpose made s/s handle to be purchased....
Have a squint through this topic Long Handled Scoops where there are several suggestions one of which may prove worthy of consideration - Good Luck
Cheers Eric

[swansea jack]

Sand scoops have to be as tough as spades,they really get battered about. Sand is very heavy when wet and couple this with stones in it as well they would mangle even the best homemade attempts honestly,you'll discover that pretty quickly. The Evolutions really take all the punishment,there as tough as nails and worth every penny
Ps just a thought why not just use a a spade for now and get a proper scoop as and when , a little mini spade still works well.

I think your probably right about buying the Evo and maybe I'll be putting the purchase on the back burner for a while. I'm still not convinced that a scoop will dig deep enough fast enough in the very wet sand of some of my local beaches.