How to tell iron....

[Detectorist]

I detected a well known US Civil War area yesterday and was fooled a few times by deeper iron. What are some techniques to avoid being fooled by iron falsing on the Deus?

There was a video someplace that explained it but I can't find it now.

[Danzigman]

Hi Detectorist.. Lets say you go in GMP.. You get good signal.. If you then flick back to Basic 2 and get NO signal.. then it is Iron.. test it a few times, and get the hang of it. I always do tandem like this.
Were in the US are you located.. (I have been SC and Texas a few times)
Friendly John

[Verulamium]

Once you've dug big iron a few times you'll get to know the 'sound' of it but this does take time. It tends to have a more screechy rather than clean sound. The only iron items that fool me now are iron rings but that's to do with their shape and the way the detector 'sees' them.......

[Biglewey]

Dont think I can help but its interesting that my very humble ACE 250 has a very specific response to deep/big iron.

It always shows its very deep and almost always the highest segment (highest conductivity?) - that is, opposite end to the iron on the scale. So, very deep target read out and end segment = deep iron?

I do still occassionaly dig and never got anything better than a peice of farm implement or horse shoe.

One thing i do notice is that as soon as you disturb the soil anywhere near the item it changes to a clearly iron signal so is that disturbing the "halo"? So I dig a bit then check again and if the Ace then says iron I'm off to find something better....

[Detectorist]

I think Peacehavens was the one I saw.. I have been trying it out. It requires you going into the pinpoint feature and changing the mode. You have to set the gb and the sens. but I am very new and still learning. I was also going to ask this question and never got around to it..

I forget which one i saw but he switched to a different program with a different freq and it gave him a perfect iron signal. If you find that video, please let me know. It's one of the few I've watched.

[Detectorist]

Hi Detectorist.. Lets say you go in GMP.. You get good signal.. If you then flick back to Basic 2 and get NO signal.. then it is Iron.. test it a few times, and get the hang of it. I always do tandem like this.
Were in the US are you located.. (I have been SC and Texas a few times)
Friendly John

I'm in Missouri, in the St. Louis area. And you?

[Danzigman]

Denmark Not the SC one.. But Europa - Skandinavia. Vife´s sister used to work In Atlante area..
Did you solve the Iron problem.. I have never heard about setting/changing groundblalance would solve the problem.. I migth misunderstood..
friendly john

[Detectorist]

Denmark Not the SC one.. But Europa - Skandinavia. Vife´s sister used to work In Atlante area..
Did you solve the Iron problem.. I have never heard about setting/changing groundblalance would solve the problem.. I migth misunderstood..
friendly john

I think I saw a video from peacehavan where he switched frequencies to check a target. The frequency he was normally using gave him a mixed tone signal, but when he switched to another program with a different frequency, the target sounded like pure iron, a consistent low tone.

I would love to find that video as I don't have the bandwidth to watch many of them to search for just one.

Cheers!

[Danzigman]

Hi Detectorist.. Lets say you go in GMP.. You get good signal.. If you then flick back to Basic 2 and get NO signal.. then it is Iron.. test it a few times, and get the hang of it. I always do tandem like this.
Were in the US are you located.. (I have been SC and Texas a few times)
Friendly John

Hi I think you will find what is written abowe.. Switch between The program you use, and Basic 2. Both have diffferent Khz. Think B2 is 7,8 and (ex) GMP 17,9.. Tandem search.. Guess most do this..
Have fun - Friendly John

[stephen]

i think peacehavens vidio you may be looking for is( 201)

[whitestone]

Hi Detectorist.. Lets say you go in GMP.. You get good signal.. If you then flick back to Basic 2 and get NO signal.. then it is Iron.. test it a few times, and get the hang of it. I always do tandem like this.
Were in the US are you located.. (I have been SC and Texas a few times)
Friendly John

Hi I think you will find what is written abowe.. Switch between The program you use, and Basic 2. Both have diffferent Khz. Think B2 is 7,8 and (ex) GMP 17,9.. Tandem search.. Guess most do this..
Have fun - Friendly John

Hello John .... I usually run my deus either on basic 1 or deus fast. Do you think I could use your tandem method to check iron with these two programmes?, thank you.

tom

[Danzigman]

Hi Tom.. Im deffently not the best or most knowledgeable detectorist with the deus. We have a few who know everything.. Anywas Basic 2 is a low htz program.. And its on 4 khz. This is good to tell if it is iron or not.. With a iron ring you will still experince to dig some up.. Anyway.. In all programs GMP or fast. What I do is.. I go infront of the target with the coil and slowly back up over it... Normally all prgrams will give away the "Iron Sound". even jump on the horseshoe.. If you have second thourghts about it, just click to Basic 2 and you dont have the "good signal" sound anymore.. - I hope.. Please correct me guys if I tell wrong.. Personally I struggel with the tin foil.. Some I can hear tone on, other just jump around in the numbers.. Advise much appreciated..
John

[whitestone]

Thanks for getting back so soon John. I see what you mean now, it is the LOW khz that does NOT give an iron signal which will help. So, maybe I can still detect in either Basic 1 or Deus fast as normal Then if I get a 'possible' iron signal/sound, I switch to Basic 2 and listen for NO signal/sound. If there is NO signal/sound than maybe I have found iron?. Hopefully we will have a Deus expert to answer my question John?. Thank you again for your very fast response (Just like Deus Fast ha ha ).

Tom

[Danzigman]

Hi Tom.. Well fast and fast I think its more that im online.. So One question - Do you look for the iron and want it ?, or do you try to avoide it ?.. I dont do iron..
John

[cbfn]

SAy your detecting in gmp,you come upon a target you think is iron ,press the minus key once so your in basic 1.Then press menu scroll down to freq press and using the minus key again change to 4khz press return twice.Your now in basic one in 4khz much better for id on iron,and only one button away from gmp your original search mode.This procedure is very quick in the field.