Gary's Hot Deus program on 12kHz?

[rob-greaves]

Quick question - can I simply use Gary's 'Hot' program on 12kHz? Or are there other parameters I should adjust to get the most out of using 12kHz?

I only ask since I was running 'Hot' on a dig, and a fellow unearthed an Elizabeth I hammered at about 8" down. He laid it on the ground for me to sweep the coil over to hear what it sounded like, and at about 6" in fee air it was barely audible with no VDI numbers at 17kHz with my Deus and 11" coil. I knew right away I need more depth than the standard Hot 17kHz program provides.

Cheers - Rob

[JamieB]

increasing audio response will make fainter signals louder - you could also try ramping up the sensitivity until you can no longer stand the chatter lol

[MarkSussex]

Using 8khz is also worth a try and I have seen a video from Gary using 4khz to good effect for locating deeper targets.

Quick question - can I simply use Gary's 'Hot' program on 12kHz? Or are there other parameters I should adjust to get the most out of using 12kHz?

I only ask since I was running 'Hot' on a dig, and a fellow unearthed an Elizabeth I hammered at about 8" down. He laid it on the ground for me to sweep the coil over to hear what it sounded like, and at about 6" in fee air it was barely audible with no VDI numbers at 17kHz with my Deus and 11" coil. I knew right away I need more depth than the standard Hot 17kHz program provides.

Cheers - Rob

[Stillburning]

Interesting question Rob, I've been thinking about the effect of the different frequencies for a while.

I will start off by saying I am still learning a lot about the Deus but in my experiance dropping the frequency is not a quick fix to get more depth on all targets in all conditions.

In Garys video explaining the benefits of 4khz he says this frequency can be better at finding multiple targets on the surface, bigger targets deeper, may work better with some soil conditions and can still find small targets, what is not shown is finding the target at 4khz then increasing the frequency and showing what effect this has on the signal.

I have tried myself on my permission and on my typical targets ranging from hammered to musket balls I found that altering the frequency had no practical difference on the signals I could hear, the big difference came from altering the programme e.g from Garys hot to GM Power (and from my understanding on how the various settings work together I can understand why this is).

On the specific example of a hammered coin in the original post out of interest I just did an air test in the garden (I realise this does not replicate real conditions), for a long cross penny on both Garys Hot and GM Power there was no appreciable difference between 17khz and 12 khz and by the time I had dropped to 4 khz there was a noticeable reduction in the signal height.

So just to sum up my thoughts on this, I think changing the programme will help you find a hammered coin deeper more than dropping the frequency, dropping the fequency does however have other advantages, but looking forward to hearing other opinions on this

[Ollie K]

Hi there, I have used 18 and 12khz like this and both are great! I find it depends on the site as to which will work best as I have one really dry, sandy soiled permission where 12 works best. It seems to calm things down a bit and seems to pick the copper alloy/bronze bits out deeper, however 18khz seems to pick the small hammereds out best and deeper, so experiment a bit. I've also lowered the reactivity to 2 before, if the ground is fairly free of iron- this gives more depth but signals sound a lot wider and not so nice, I find, but on pasture, it will give you a depth advantage. In a really irony area then 18khz, reactivity at 4 and sensitivity about 75-80 takes some beating.
Cheers, Ollie

[rob-greaves]

I'm quickly discovering that Reactivity can really kill depth potential if I'm running high Reactivity where the land really doesn't warrant it and isn't really iron infested.

I will have a play next time out, and try and balance Sensitivity, Reactivity, and Freq and see how it goes. A shame I don't have a known test target of a hammered in my garden etc. to compare settings on! I buried an old 2p piece at about 8" depth, but that's hardly representative of the stuff I want to find rl; Although it has been useful to compare the quality of signal response for different programs and frequencies.

I've only so far been detecting (and thus digging!) reasonably shallow small targets. The only deep ones have been much larger and/or ferrous targets (horseshoes, barrel tap etc.)

Cheers - Rob

[Ollie K]

You can buy hammereds off the well known auction site for 99p. I keep mine in my finds pouch then bury it and play with the settings when I feel the need arises

[king of the swingers]

i run hot programme in 8khz now.
u just have to listen a little bit more u get to hear like a maybe (or iffy) signal flipp 6 inch off and u get a nice deep signal when the sods off takes practise but ive found some deep sixpences and small bits at decent depths. when i first had deus i worried about depth but now i feel happy with deus

[king of the swingers]

also on some sights its too noisy in a certain khz so change to the site. i wud happily use it in 18khz if that was keeping machine stable .