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Patched musket ball

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I have found this musket ball that still retains remains of a leather patch, and the entire surface is marked with the skin texture (usually pig or bovine).
That kind of bullets were used in rifled weapons (like the Baker rifle), although this one seems of a larger bore. [42/]
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Probably Brown Bess balls. [81/]
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Too small :~#)
In the area I found lots of Brown Bess bullets; normal weight is 28 grams.
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Theyre certainly oddities.
I find musket shot at an umcannily good rate or bad i suppose depending whether they can be deemed good finds. I have over the past 18 months or so amassed hundreds of them and have given handfuls away to landowners but Ive never found any resembling those though.
Its as if little strips of lead have been stuck on to the balls. :-/
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They are leather patches. After two hundred years hopefully are some remains.......
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Macsen Wledig wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 1:19 pm Theyre certainly oddities.
I find musket shot at an umcannily good rate or bad i suppose depending whether they can be deemed good finds. I have over the past 18 months or so amassed hundreds of them and have given handfuls away to landowners but Ive never found any resembling those though.
Its as if little strips of lead have been stuck on to the balls. :-/
Top photo looks like a musket ball covered in Lead hydroxycarbonate or similar. Poisonous, Depending on the soil conditions, lead comes out white hard smooth, white porous, brown, blue, dark grey. Shiny grey and do on. I find blue, black dark grey and light grey out of the same field.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=leather ... uawei-rev1
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The bullet has its layer of lead hydroxycarbonate like almost all the bullets I've found (last year 112, this year around 50).
What is unusual is the surface texture and the remains attached.
The bottom photo is an example how it might originally look.
No one expects to pull out a bullet after two hundred years on earth with its patch of skin intact.
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Post by Cartwheel Penny »

They have probably been patched with greased pig skin. They may have been used in the Baker rifle.
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