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Lead bullet?

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I found this on Friday.
I think it's a bullet but i can't find anything similar on the 'net.
Any information about it would be much appreciated :)

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it looks like a .22 rimfire short,
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Post by Neil&Julie »

pippy96 wrote:it looks like a .22 rimfire short,
Its way too big for a .22 RF (5.58mm) using my scale, the bullet is 11mm across and 15mm long!

Can you tell if its solid or jacketed (lead wrapped in copper??)
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http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/b ... s_list.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Although this is a site for American Civil War projectiles - if you scroll down the page on the link there are two which are very similar in shape to yours with only one groove/ring - scroll down to Trantor Revolver.

Hope this is of some help :)

There is also a bullet data base which might help.
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Neil&Julie wrote:
pippy96 wrote:it looks like a .22 rimfire short,
Its way too big for a .22 RF (5.58mm) using my scale, the bullet is 11mm across and 15mm long!

Can you tell if its solid or jacketed (lead wrapped in copper??)

a size in (mm) of .22 rf is 5.6mm
if your bullet is 11mm it is a .45 long colt, .45 acp, ect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_mm_caliber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Harry Digger »

Spot on Neil&Julie B-)

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It's just lead with no copper jacket.

Thanks for all the replies so far. This is starting to look a bit interesting now =D>
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Post by Neil&Julie »

Its nothing modern (1939-present) that Ive seen. The cannelure is way too deep to be a modern bullet, the older barrels werent as accurately manufactured as they are today, so they had to make the tail of the bullet be able to expand more to fill the barrel (to prevent the explosive gases leaking around it).

Is the tail of the bullet hollow? (It doesnt look like it from the photo)
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Post by Harry Digger »

The bottom is indeed flat :)
In the first picture you can see two parallel lines on the side.
There are similar lines like that, equally spaced, in four other places around the circumfrence of the bullet.
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Post by Neil&Julie »

They are barrel scars from when the bullet was fired down the rifling! Certainly an old bullet going by the manufacturing!
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If the lines are straight does shis mean the bullet wasn't spinning? Image
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Post by Neil&Julie »

Harry Digger wrote:If the lines are straight does shis mean the bullet wasn't spinning? Image
No, it means it was spinning! It means the same part of the bullet followed the same groove all the way out the barrel!
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Post by Neil&Julie »

This could be a .58" Williams cleaner.....COULD!!
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