Hi, could I have some ID help on these please?

[slashter]

I was detecting a field which according to the farmer was a training area in the 2ww. He told me that apparently the equipment was set up in one corner of the field. These bits and pieces were found on the opposite side of the field but only about 250m away

Firstly, the cylindrical things. THey are all 2inch diameter & 70mm long. One still has an id plate on it. THe only thing i can read so far is AZ8812

Secondly, the brass parts. Are they shrapnel bits? The broken round bits all seem to have a thread on them whilst the flatter bits have 3 grooves running through them.

The last pic is a 1916 sixpence & 2 penknives. Never found a penknife before & then along come 2 in the space of half an hour in a large grass field....i suppose they could have belonged to the troops??

[former member]

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[slashter]

Blimey thanks Slippery
I wasn't expecting G..G..German....the filthy hun must have been bombing Bristol...mind you it needed it!!!

[RRPG]

You need to get those pieces of German incendiary bomb outside in the garden. Don't delay......do it now.

Whilst they look to be 'spent', a large proportion of these bombs never burnt fully away, meaning that there will almost certainly be 'live' incendiary material in there, just waiting to ignite when exposed to the air.

Please move them into the garden before you and your house go up in flames. I would also consider giving EOD a call to get their view on the objects.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but these things are probably not completely safe

As for your bits in the second photo, you have pieces of artillery shell nose fuze, (probably no. 199 fuzes from the 3.7inch shells fired at the planes that dropped your incendiary bomb!!!), and pieces of artillery shell drive band. These are all perfectly safe

[slashter]

Thanks Steve....I had a suspicion someone would ruin my collection....I have now removed the offending objects to the garden...i might get that bloody fox tonight then who keeps leaving deposits ...that'll shock him

[RRPG]

Thanks Steve....I had a suspicion someone would ruin my collection....I have now removed the offending objects to the garden...i might get that bloody fox tonight then who keeps leaving deposits ...that'll shock him

I know.....sorry But I'd rather you be alive with a slightly smaller collection than the other option.

As for the fox, you could always smear the incendiary with dog food. Perhaps he would take it home then ..........

[alloverover]

Looks like you found the end of my incendiary slashter

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[slashter]

Ummm..yes thanks for your helpful contribution alloverrover.... I've been sat here for hours now holding this thing out the window ....isnt ordnance fun

Back to medieval stuff for me...it cant go bang!!!!

[william holmes]

you do realise incendiary bombs were filled with Thermite which doesn't react with air at all and for only the very tip to remain , all the thermite and magnesium body would have burnt away . iv heard stories of people during ww2 particually children taking incendiary bombs apart emptying the contents into a saucepan then setting light to it and the thermite would burn a hole straight through the saucepan

[RRPG]

you do realise incendiary bombs were filled with Thermite which doesn't react with air at all and for only the very tip to remain , all the thermite and magnesium body would have burnt away . iv heard stories of people during ww2 particually children taking incendiary bombs apart emptying the contents into a saucepan then setting light to it and the thermite would burn a hole straight through the saucepan

See, told you I learn something new every day.

Something else to consider is that, in an attempt to make these weapons even more effective, and to defeat the fire-fighters efforts, the Germans introduced explosive charges into the nose or tail of some incendiary bombs.

The charge was initiated either by the heat of combustion, or by a more complicated device that incorporated a delay of about 7 minutes. The various versions of this bomb included the letter Z in their designation, indicating explosive charge. Thus the standard B1El incendiary bomb fitted with an explosive charge detonated by heat was designated B1EL ZA, and that detonated by a delay B1El ZB.

[Wansdyke44]

Photo of the other side of the marked part please? Might tell us more.

The pen knives may well be related to the same period. Home guard types smoking pipes maybe?

[slashter]

Oh I see, the plate with the markings on is a screw in fuse??

Wouldn't that indicate that the thing has exploded then, theres just a hard crust (the white stuff) around whats left. Presumably it should be possible to unscrew it from the thread?

[slashter]

Most obviously I meant FUZE and not FUSE in my last post...FUSE wouldn't make any sense at all!!!!

[Wansdyke44]

Oh I see, the plate with the markings on is a screw in fuse??

Wouldn't that indicate that the thing has exploded then, theres just a hard crust (the white stuff) around whats left. Presumably it should be possible to unscrew it from the thread?

PM sent Slashter.

[william holmes]

it may be possible to remove the fuze from the remains of the bomb it just depends on how seized it it