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Help with id needed, please

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I found the following item below and would be glad of your help in identifying it.
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It appears to be lead and is a pot shape. the bottom section has an inner lighter coloured 'circle'. Is it anything to do with being a gunpowder mixer/holder or, just part of a tractor?
Apologies for the measuring ruler - the kids have disappeared with the 'serious' one!

I also found a lead disc shape about the size of a one pence piece and very weighty - it has no marks. Any ideas? it is about 2 mm in depth.

When I can resize my other images I'll put them on.
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the second lead disk may be a old traders weight?
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Hi Putty

Thanks. I did wonder about it being some sort of weight - shame I can't find any markings on it.

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looks to me like a old bullet . the lighter core could be the lead used inside the "round" to keep it balanced in flight and being lead flatten on impact to maximise damage on exit.
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essexray78

Thanks for that suggestion. The softer material in the centre is certainly an enigma. If it is a bullet then, the centre being different would certainly make sense.

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i am reasionably sure that it is not a bullet sorry to throw a spanner in the works
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looking at it a bullet would be my first though. but looking at the size now at nearly 20mm that would be a seriously big round only thing id think would be an anti aircraft /cannon round hard to tell really some one on here will nail it.
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is it a stamp of some sort?
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Post by furriner »

Thanks for all your suggestions. I wish that I could offer a better image - but, I don't have a good enough macro lens on the camera.

Maybe this description may help more:

the height of the lead object is easily 2 and a 1/2 cm
the measurement is 2 cm across the centre
the object is flat at the base and is cylinder shaped (I assume it to have straight sides though it is 'caved in')
the sides are about 2-3 mm thick
the object is hollow and has an inner lighter coloured circle in the centre of the base (about 1 1/2 cm across)

The bullet theory would only really hold out if it were from a large gun. Someone did suggest it was similar to a pot that held gunpowder during the English civil war era though, I don't know. It is an oddity!

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my cemera isnt that hot either but if i take photo then crop it on my kodak program thing ma jiggy it zooms in on the cropped image and gives it a lot of detail it might work for you?
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Post by furriner »

I agree Putty. The only problem is that the definition of the image tends to suffer - that was the case with the images of this object after I cropped them.

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