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Post by thefiggis »

Koala wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:19 pm Looks very short for a conventional style dart which would be at least three finger width
My own dart barrels are around 30mm and they're not uncommon.

I think the OP needs to give it a scrape and confirm what it's made of. A dart should be either brass or nickel tungsten.
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I have recovered thousands of .30 and .303 projectiles off my regular beaches but never one that even resembled that object. If there is a small screw head inside the open end; do not try to unscrew it, it may contain something nasty.

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Post by TheMellowedMole »

Hi there.
I think if it was a dart barrel would it not have some type of grip area or markings surrounding it for a soild hold of it before throwing it ?.
Most darts have.
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Post by Koala »

We can rule out bullet. I think.

Bullets have to have some of there sides parallel to stop it tipping in the barrel

If it had been fired there would be riffling marks on the base

No rings. Although the earlier on didn't have any they had a rounded tip


Its at the extreme of a dart.

32mm were the shortest I could find which is approximal what this is and would just come in at just over 10 gram which again is towards the bottom end but not impossible.


The shape is odd for a dart. Your finger would be down on the shaft to grip it. As you can get any shape custom made its not impossible.


The shape does remind me of a WW2 bomb. Some kind of toy ??? or model ??? Missing its fins


Or short answer. Dont know.
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Post by PHILLUCKY »

definatly a dart (brass bombs as we used to call them).

the stem wound have been wood and had feathers for a flight.

the point has eroded away
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Post by Lowland »

At the travelling shows this year they were still using Very similar bomb shaped darts
For the win the teddy bear game.
Probably as old as well
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Hmmm, I wonder if it could be the tip off an early fletchette?
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PHILLUCKY wrote: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:18 am definatly a dart (brass bombs as we used to call them).

the stem wound have been wood and had feathers for a flight.

the point has eroded away
The hole in the end is approximately 3 or 4 mm. Which is about right for a modern nylon shaft.

The wooden ones as far as I remember were much bigger.

Its approximately the same size as a 303 except fatter at the front.


Hold one between your thumb and first two fingers. Just see how small it is. Its not impossible to be a dart but it is extremely small.
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Post by MilitaryMetalMagnut »

I’ve also never seen a bullet ‘squidge’ like that!
Looks similar in size and shape to a ‘Lazy Dog’ bomblet, but can’t help further. :-/

Interesting find, though. Is that lead in the base?

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Post by RRPG »

It's a dart.....as in 'ONE HUNDRED AND EIGGGGGGGGGGGHTY!'

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MilitaryMetalMagnut wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:01 pm I’ve also never seen a bullet ‘squidge’ like that!
Looks similar in size and shape to a ‘Lazy Dog’ bomblet, but can’t help further. :-/

Interesting find, though. Is that lead in the base?

Best regards,

Simon
Well, I was going to ask 'What is a lazy dog?' and then I googled it instead and was quite educated!
A most interesting input.

Thanks Simon ::g
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