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Hi all!

I found this bullet on one of my small permissions and it's the only one I have found so far there so was wondering what it's from and it's rough age?

It's a bit battered and the end is squashed both ways so not worth a picture for measure, it was found on pasture with my Garrett Ace 250 on relic mode and was 5 inches down.

Thanks in advance.
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Post by Koala »

Post 1850

Doesn't look like familiar UK military bullet


There were dozens of bullet manufactures. Each with dozens of different shapes you be very lucky to find an exact match
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Post by Richdebtomdom »

has expansion rings on the base- poss muzzle load? My guess would be as above- 1800 plus...
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Thank you both.
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That is a crimping mark on the bullet.
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Post by f8met »

It could be a Martini Henry which has hit something.
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f8met wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:04 pm It could be a Martini Henry which has hit something.
I doubt it as a

Martini Henry are two grooves. With a shallow base cavity and a small dimple in the middle

30mm long first groove is about 3mm from the bottom and 9.5mm for the second


Made from a lead alloy and depending on the ground either go black or brown but never white
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Richdebtomdom wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:35 pm has expansion rings on the base- poss muzzle load? My guess would be as above- 1800 plus...
The bullet shape wasn't developed until 1850 although there are a few musket balls that had a small flat in the middle.
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I have half a dozen white Martini Henry bullets. The OPs picture looks like it has hit something and there are another couple of grooves in the folds on the left picture. I will post them up later.
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Post by Koala »

These are M/H

Fairly different to most being quite long.

When they hit the nearly always tumble and squash flat.

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Assuming the base is about the correct size it's going to be about .38 CAL loads of rifles and pistols are possible. If it's fairly flat on the base a revolver likely. However I doubt you will ever know with any certainty. Has to be post 1850 and being lead and not a lead alloy it probably pre 1900
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Webley service revolver .455. date would be 1887 onwards.
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Post by fred »

That damage looks as though it might be deliberate to me. ::g
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Post by ashjacko »

Thank you all so much! it does look very similar in size to my other .577's.
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