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(Amazing) last find of 2019 - WW2 US Navy storage depot.

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Hi all,

Over 2019, I found some rather decent finds, but just as 2019 came to an end I found something really cool and unusual, which I thought I would share with you all.
I went over to a nearby common, and the finds there didn’t disappoint!! The common was the site of a very large storage depot for the US Navy, built in the winter of 1943/44 in preparation for D-Day. It housed just about everything ship/naval related, from spare engine parts to lifebelts for the men landing on the beaches. The depot was very important indeed, as just about everything the US Navy needed funnelled through here and then distributed to the relevant ports along the south coast for the flotilla on the 6th June 1944.

I had a look around and there was only a ruddy helmet!!!

This isn’t just any helmet, this is a US Navy MkII ‘Talker’ helmet, which was used by deck commanders and Anti-Aircraft gunner commanders. The Talker helmet entered into service in 1942 and was extra large than a standard issue M1 helmet, to accommodate headphones worn underneath and still give adequate protection. These helmets were only made by one factory, the McCords Radiator Co., Detroit, Michigan. Talker helmets are really quite uncommon, and I have never known one to be found archaeologically in the UK, so I might have the only one found. :)

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I really would go so far to say that this is my most historic thing I’ve found. As it is highly likely that this very helmet was worn on-board ship going across the channel, on the morning of the 6th June 1944, and indeed in the days/weeks/months afterwards setting up and protecting the supply lines through Normandy.

It’s a little bit squished and ‘holey’, but not too bad considering the nasty acidic nature of the soil on the site. Most thin metal objects that I find on that common literally just turn to dust when touched, but this is still relatively solid and still has some original blue paint! The last two pics are of the Talker helmet being worn in combat.

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Other than a super awesome helmet, I also found half a huge 2 1/2 inch bore gate valve, made by CRANE in Stamford, Connecticut, a really big brass ‘grub screw’, and two more brass inflation valves from a M1926 inflatable lifebelt.

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What a find to end the decade!!

Here's to 2020, chaps! ::g s;.. s;.. s;..

Best regards,

Simon
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Wowsers
First of all what a great account of the finds and day, excellent. ::g
And great find on the helmet ::g
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Don’t forget your only allowed 4 pictures a day to be uploaded but amazing finds 👌
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Wardie94 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:20 am Don’t forget your only allowed 4 pictures a day to be uploaded but amazing finds 👌
Hiya, if you host those photos on a site such as "flickr" then you can post as many as you like fella as we dont have to host them ::g
The forum will only allow you to upload 4 in a post ::g
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What is Flickr ? How’s do you host them on that and link it in with this forum ?
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Many thanks chaps! ::g
Blackadder43 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:23 am
Wardie94 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:20 am Don’t forget your only allowed 4 pictures a day to be uploaded but amazing finds 👌
Hiya, if you host those photos on a site such as "flickr" then you can post as many as you like fella as we dont have to host them ::g
The forum will only allow you to upload 4 in a post ::g
Indeed, I used 'Imgur' to share those pics. Imgur is free to use, and you just copy the 'BBcode' share link from there, and paste it here. ::g

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What a cracking find mate. Real history unearthed. If you find any parts for a ww2 willys or gpw let me know cos I'm restoring 3 at the min,cd ::g
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coal digger wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:30 am What a cracking find mate. Real history unearthed. If you find any parts for a ww2 Willis or gpw let me know cos I'm restoring 3 at the min,cd ::g
Wow!! That's cool! I know though talking to a local elderly gent who told me that he remembers the Americans burying things on the site after the war, including Willis Jeeps! They're, apparently, 20ft deep though! ::g =))

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MilitaryMetalMagnut wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:34 am
coal digger wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:30 am What a cracking find mate. Real history unearthed. If you find any parts for a ww2 Willis or gpw let me know cos I'm restoring 3 at the min,cd ::g
Wow!! That's cool! I know though talking to a local elderly gent who told me that he remembers the Americans burying things on the site after the war, including Willis Jeeps! They're, apparently, 20ft deep though! ::g =))

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Simon
They will need a Makro racer red then to find them then :D .Yea i've heard similar stories from local villagers around normandy.cd ::g
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Great story! ::g
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Me dads jeep he’s had it 26 years ago lol ::g
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What a great find, Simon with the photos and write up.
I forgot the helmets were also in blue.
Good Luck for 2020, ::g
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Thanks very much, chaps, really one of my most fav finds ::g
I'm thinking I should make a stand for it! :)
Ratter wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:43 pm Me dads jeep he’s had it 26 years ago lol ::g 4EA159FA-A41F-4E9D-8038-060A350D0D0C.jpeg
That's super nice, matey. ::g Loving all these Willys's! ::g

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coal digger wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:30 amIf you find any parts for a ww2 willys or gpw let me know cos I'm restoring 3 at the min,cd ::g
As it happens, I'm hoping a Willys jeep owner can help me ID this I found today. I went to the same area again today, to have another look around. I didn't find anything as grand as last time, but I did find this engine valve.

Didn't realise until I got it home and cleaned it that it has the makers name on the valve head.
Embossed it reads 'RMC OVERLAND EX'. I assume that is the Willys-Overland company?

It measures;
9.42mm (.370") shaft diameter.
37.2mm (1.464") head diamter.
and is just under 150mm long (5.9")

Anyone with a Willys jeep who can confirm if this is a Willys jeep engine valve?

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Also, a couple of months ago, I found another engine valve that seems to be made of stainless. This was found just a few feet from the one I found today. On the bottom is embossed 'GM EX' 41', which I would assume is General Motors.

It measures;
8.64mm (.340") shaft diameter.
37.2mm (1.464") head diameter. (Same as the Overland valve)
and 123.7mm (4.870") long.

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Apologies for the dull photos.. If anyone can confirm what these would have come from, I'd be most grateful. ::g :)

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That’s definitely a Jeep value ::g
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