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What to do when you get too many 50 cals !

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When the RRPG met up a few weeks ago to dig the RAF dump, a number of trades had been lined up for various bits n bobs. I traded some stuff for some ground dug 50cals. Now this wasn't because I didn't have any 50cal cartridges. Far from it! I have hundreds of them myself. No.........this was for a very specific reason. I wanted to get a stack belted up to make a display piece, but not the ones that I had dug myself as these were 'special' to me. Hence the trade........they are still ground dug and WW2 dated but, because I didn't dig them myself, it felt fine to take them back to shiney, something I never normally do. :) :) :)

So, I now had some ground dug 50cal carts that I could use to make up the belt, and already had plenty of 50cal bullets.

Here is a sample of what they look like before any cleaning.

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So first up I gave the carts a bit of a general clean. Then.......

1. I took the bullets and dropped them into my rock tumbler with a couple of handfuls of sand, turned it on and left it for a day

2. Whilst the bullets were being scrubbed in the rock tumbler I cleaned the carts. To get the shine back I took two cartridges and held them in a rubber gloved hand.

3. Using a 'tough scourer' (the ones made of coils of steel strips), I squirted three or four squirts of original (orange trigger), Cillett Bang, into the scourer and onto the carts in my cupped hand.

4. Scrub the carts quickly and vigorously, for a maximum of 30 seconds.

5. Rinse off the Cillett Bang and check the carts. Repeat if they are not shiney enough.

6. Leave to dry overnight.

7. Retrieve the bullets, clean and check each by inserting them into a cartridge to determine 'fit'.

8. Drop a drawing pin, (or something similar), into the bottom of each cartridge.

9. Using a glue of your own choosing, glue the bullets into the cartridge, being careful to remove excess glue around the shoulder.

10. Leave to dry.

11. Whilst drying, ring Cobbaton Combat and get the lovely guy there to send you some original 50cal links, still in their wax boxes. £4 per box. Bargain !

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12. Get linking !!! If, like me, you find some of them stick, just try twisting them. If this still doesn't work, grab a hammer and smack them home. I did this by opening my vice so that the cartridge shoulder fits inside the vice, but the link sits against the outer edge of the jaws of the vice. Now when you hit the base of the cart, you're hitting against a stationary link. :) :)




And here is the result...... :) :)



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Close up so you can see them a little better. Not bad for a bit of Cillett Bang and a rock tumbler :)


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And here are the bases to show they are all fired. Don't forget the top tip as well, to really show they are inert ........ a drawing pin into the bottom of the cartridge works great. The rounds rattle when shaken, making it very obvious to determine that they are spent and contain nothing but air, (and a drawing pin), should anyone ever think they are live. :) :)


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Just one more picture because you can't judge scale in the previous ones. These 50s are big buggers and the belt is damned heavy and about 3 feet long. So, to give it some perspective, here is a picture of me holding them up. Yes I know.........god awful taking pictures in mirrors, but it was the best way to show you the size of the belt. I'm 6 foot 2 inches tall by the way, just in case some smart alec thinks I'm 4 foot 4...... :D :D

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Great display piece me thinks. I am well chuffed with it :) :)

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Post by slowsweep »

yeah very nice ::g
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Post by sado_81 »

That looks awesome ::g ::g ::g
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Thanks guys :) :)
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Post by slowsweep »

thats a lot of brass for sure ::g
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Post by Anubis »

Top job, this is exactly why this stuff should not end up in the scrap, some thought and effort and you have somthing that looks great and is saved for future generations to enjoy and learn about ::g ::g ::g
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Back in the late '70's/early '80's there was a roaring trade selling inert GPMG/M60 belts to heavy rock bands & their fans............ ;)
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Indeed. You wouldn't want this as a trouser belt though.......not unless you like your trousers round your ankles.

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start a war :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D s;.. s;.. s;.. s;.. s;.. s;.. b;> h;@
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LOL ! I wouldn't do very well, given that they are all inert =)) =))

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are they legal im sure the police would pull you wearing one
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Post by Mucky »

RRPG wrote:Indeed. You wouldn't want this as a trouser belt though.......not unless you like your trousers round your ankles :)
Well dont give us a mirror shot of that whatever you do! =)) =)) =))
Well done though mate. ::g
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RRPG wrote:Indeed. You wouldn't want this as a trouser belt though.......not unless you like your trousers round your ankles.

:)

Saw a 50 cal bandolier used as a bass guitar sling but I can't remember which band it was!

sanner65 wrote:are they legal im sure the police would pull you wearing one
Perfectly legal mate, however if a "concerned member of the public" called it in the police would be duty bound to investigate however unless the belt was attached to a 50 cal weapon it'd be a local unarmed unit ;)
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sanner65 wrote:are they legal im sure the police would pull you wearing one
Seriously guys, you couldn't/wouldn't wear one due to the weight!!!!
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