Deus Lite Depth?

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Deus Lite Depth?

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Im not one of those that thinks detecting is all about maximum depth as most experienced people know most good finds are only 4 - 6 inches down, anything deeper tends to be large heavy iron or farm junk but what I experienced yesterday has got me stumped.

I was out on a pasture field which normally only chucks up lead scrap and buttons but for some reason i find myself drawn to it even when i have closer permissions.

I hit a hotspot and found coin after coin, all be it only coppers, George's etc, few nice patterned buttons but then I had a couple of signals where i dug a clod of soil/grass out that was probably no more than 5-6 inches thick. Id scan the hole, and scan the clod (clod was turned upside down with the grass on the bottom and the mud on the top) and my signal vanished. I then flipped the clod over so it was grass side up and my signal returned again, and we are not talking weak signal im talking belting copper coin signal.... So what im saying is when I scanned the clod, from the bottom mud side it showed no signal, but when i flipped the clod and scanned it from the grass side the signal returned.

The finds were coppers or buttons and where 1 - 2 inches below the grass so how come it wasnt picking the finds up from the bottom of the clod? It seems to me my Deus is only detecting upto 3 - 4 inches down? As said i dug a few clods out, signal dissapeared but when i flipped the clod the find was 2 inches inside the clod just below the grass.

Is GMP the correct setting to be using? Ive found if i adjust sensitivity it just makes it really annoying to use it seems to sound off all the time and its hard to pinpoint a target where as in standard GMP its more stable?

Thanks ::g
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Post by Sportsman »

That does happen a lot with the deus to be fair i aint had my ctx long so am not sure if that happens with that as well, you become used to it if the signal goes just flip the piece over you just dug.. Great machines they are the deus had many of great finds when i had mine
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Post by manicdev »

shoveller wrote:what I experienced yesterday has got me stumped.

scan the clod (clod was turned upside down with the grass on the bottom and the mud on the top) and my signal vanished. I then flipped the clod over so it was grass side up and my signal returned again, and we are not talking weak signal im talking belting copper coin signal.... So what im saying is when I scanned the clod, from the bottom mud side it showed no signal, but when i flipped the clod and scanned it from the grass side the signal returned.
I have found the same with my Deus, But have also had this with the T2 ?
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Post by El Dorado »

That happens with my XP Adventis all the time, thought it was because it was a cheaper machine, thinking of upgrading to a Deus or CTX so would be curious to know if it happens with the CTX aswell :-/
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Post by trappa »

I've had same with etrac too come to think of it.
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Post by tigtog »

had the same on my 150/ and 3mxi, and the deus does it , my mates at pro also does it.
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Post by cantfindnothing »

Happens to me and my ace 250 all the time' and thats with the Nel 12x13 fitted'.. 2 inch from the top great signal turn the clod grass side down and nothing'.. Maybe its just a detector thing if it happens to machines from both ends of the price range'

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I aint had my ctx long only done about 5 outing with it but i aint had that as yet,am sure the long term users of the ctx might know though.
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shoveller wrote:Im not one of those that thinks detecting is all about maximum depth as most experienced people know most good finds are only 4 - 6 inches down, anything deeper tends to be large heavy iron or farm junk but what I experienced yesterday has got me stumped.

I was out on a pasture field which normally only chucks up lead scrap and buttons but for some reason i find myself drawn to it even when i have closer permissions.

I hit a hotspot and found coin after coin, all be it only coppers, George's etc, few nice patterned buttons but then I had a couple of signals where i dug a clod of soil/grass out that was probably no more than 5-6 inches thick. Id scan the hole, and scan the clod (clod was turned upside down with the grass on the bottom and the mud on the top) and my signal vanished. I then flipped the clod over so it was grass side up and my signal returned again, and we are not talking weak signal im talking belting copper coin signal.... So what im saying is when I scanned the clod, from the bottom mud side it showed no signal, but when i flipped the clod and scanned it from the grass side the signal returned.

The finds were coppers or buttons and where 1 - 2 inches below the grass so how come it wasnt picking the finds up from the bottom of the clod? It seems to me my Deus is only detecting upto 3 - 4 inches down? As said i dug a few clods out, signal dissapeared but when i flipped the clod the find was 2 inches inside the clod just below the grass.

Is GMP the correct setting to be using? Ive found if i adjust sensitivity it just makes it really annoying to use it seems to sound off all the time and its hard to pinpoint a target where as in standard GMP its more stable?

Thanks ::g
Try and get used top full tonnes its noisy as heck at first but imo it does get you deeper,the faint signals are better with it on pasture
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Post by harry »

Don't be fooled into higher sensitivity equals more depth, sensitivity tune your detector to the tonal response of the find....think of it like being a volume control of a radio, crank it up too high and it will distort the speakers.....so if your sens is up too high it will distort the tone that you hear. Dont be afraid at lowering it to around 85 then increase it until the chattering/chirping become audible then lower it by one or two.
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Post by shoveller »

Thanks people i find if i mess around with the settings on any of the preset programs it just becomes too chattery, unstable and irritates me lol

I put one of the coins back in the hole on one (about 6-8 inch down) and it only just picked it up, to be honest thats deep enough for me, i just found it odd how it couldnt detect it on the mud side of the clod when the find was only 4 or so inches deep into it. ::g
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Post by ray835 »

i've got the full set up it's also happened to me one minute the signal was there next minute it was gone :-/ maybe they can solve this when they bring out v3.3 ::g
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Post by grumpyjohn »

Have the same thing happening on a V3i and reading these posts it seems a common occurrence no matter what the make or model. Interesting !!!
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Post by BritishBeef »

I get that too with my 'basic' detector ;) Good to know it happens on the 'decent' detectors too ;)
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Post by clint »

Happens sometimes with the Etrac, either in the hole or with the plug.If you disturb the soil or dig more out the signal will return. Wonder if it's got something to do along the lines of why air tests aren't consistent or maybe when the plug is turned the scan angle may be different and the coin may be on edge?

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